USEAST HCL -- HUGE Trade List

[Hashmalum]

Hey all I have a lot of stuff on here for trade. Im really looking for a skullders, or just accepting offers for the smaller stuff.

+4 SS Cerberus Bite
Tgods
Magewrath
Small charm-2 max, 19 ar, 2-3 fire dmg
+1 alma negra
2 socket djinn slayer
7/13 string
12% tals belt
PERFECT Kiras Guardian 70 res all
viperfork
98 mana ring
106 mana ring
+3 elemental ammy
+3 offensive aura ammy
rare ammy - +4 max dmg, 8% mana leech, +51 life, prismatic
bloodletter
ginthers
sazabi helm
rare ammy - 10 FC, 6 energy, 37 mana, 6 mf
tals helm
trang ouls armor

account is *Hashmalum
or leave bids here

[Bootz24]

UNIDED PCrown
UNIDED Titans

for

Kira's

*Hard_Coors2

[Hashmalum]

Well so far thats the only offer I got on anything lol...

[Hashmalum]

soooo.. how come no offers for anything??

[satori]

Well... the only ISO you left was Skullders (which I don't have)
so I'm not sure what you're looking for... I would like your Tgods
but don't know if I can snag for runes or charms or jewels or lld
stuff or elite uniques...



satori

[Hashmalum]

People can offer anything. Im open to all offers just Im looking for skullders mainly. Just offer for an item you like.
And to the offer on the Kira's , Im not gonna let it go for those items sorry man.

[Hashmalum]

Wow this is a big list and noone wants to make an offer on anything?? Alright whatever..

[Sailorwolf2]

Actually I would call that a medium to small list.

And not many people will waste there time guessing at what items you like/need. So you might want to list at least a few more iso items you prefer.

But this just my suggestion.....

[Dire_Wulf]

Actually I would call that a medium to small list.

And not many people will waste there time guessing at what items you like/need. So you might want to list at least a few more iso items you prefer.

But this just my suggestion.....

I have the same problem in b.net trading. I just went 10 minutes with a guy last night trying to guess what he would want for um rune.

Whats annoying is when you want to trade for something cheap like a t-gods, you ask the person what they are looking for, and the spout off... SS, shako, Vex, Skullders, Soj.

Anyway, yeah... post a trade list... it makes things easier

[satori]

Errmmm... OK

Then I offer 3x Ral for the tgods




satori

[Frezzist]

I'm interested in the Trang armor. How about a 15% tals for it?
I can through in a pair of waterwalks as well, 55 to life I think.

[killerxbabe]

Unid Elegant blade and 7smfc for the Kiras gaurdian. If your looking for lld gear i have a lvl22 10 to max 7 f r/w 64 AR grand charm i can throw in too.

[Shadoway]

Unid Elegant blade and 7smfc for the Kiras gaurdian. If your looking for lld gear i have a lvl22 10 to max 7 f r/w 64 AR grand charm i can throw in too.

Can we talk about the charm, if he refuses your offer?

[killerxbabe]

Can we talk about the charm, if he refuses your offer?

Sure, not much into dueling myself.

[IrishDreamer]

I'm interested in the Trang armor. How about a 15% tals for it?
I can through in a pair of waterwalks as well, 55 to life I think.


if he does not like this offer either i'd talk to you about it

*irish-wishes

[Prez]

Guys -
I'd be careful trading with hashmalum.
He just got booted from the gat channel for racist comments and generally being a jerk.

I doubt that he is trustworthy for serious trading, and defintely not any ground trades.

Prez

[Hashmalum]

LOL what is a gat channel? Who are you??? Stop trying to sabotage my trades.

Frezzist I accept your offer for the Trangs armor. Message my account *Hashmalum or leave another post here with contact information.

And guys, the reason I didnt leave a big ISO list is that I really am not looking for anything inparticular. I dont need no gems, low runes, or lld gear though.

[Hashmalum]

O ya know what, Im kinda looking for bowazon gear too. So there ya's go.

[Prez]

A man's reputation follows him around. Yours is like the odor of a dead fish thats been rotting in the summer sun for a week.

Your denial of your actions simply shows your immaturity and inability to take responsibility. I'll happily get two other well respected members of these forums to confirm your pitiful and totally inapropriate actions.

Prez

[Hashmalum]

Ummmmmm. is there any reason you are ruining a trading thread? Noone cares, just buzz off

[Prez]

The people that post in these forums on a regular basis take care to warn others as to potential problem children.

Your parents obviously failed in teaching you respect for women, ethnic groups and race based on your conduct in the GAT channel. So its logical to assume that they also failed on other counts, specifically honesty and integrity. Thus, my warning as to potential issues involving trades.

Prez

[skunkbelly]

Ummmmmm. is there any reason you are ruining a trading thread? Noone cares, just buzz off

Plenty of us care, actually.

[Hashmalum]

Yeah.. just run your mouth over the internet boy.

[Hashmalum]

Ok so some loser sticks his nose into my trade thread and now my trades are ruined? Who is this guy? What is a gat? This is ridiculous. Mind your own business

[killerxbabe]

Huh? People were talking in a GAT channel? This could NOT have been on East right?

[IrishDreamer]

prez is a well know and respected member of these forums

[Hashmalum]

I dont care if he is the pope. He gonna come in here and ruin my trade thread then run his mouth at me? This boy lucky he is sitting behind the security of his computer monitor.

[Prez]

Yes, this was on east. Believe it or not, occasionally everyone isn't afk! ;)

One of the mods was fortunately around. Ska I believe, and pulled out the cruel banning stick of quickness on this guy.

Hash - your childish threats of physical violence are simply that...childish. I'm 6'6" tall and weigh 257 lbs. Go to the gym regularly and spent many years in the military. I am a peaceful man, and have learned to control my temper after numerous skuffles in my early years. But if you desire to test yourself against me, you are more than welcome.

Prez

[killerxbabe]

What branch of the military? Former U.S. sub sailor here. U.S.S. Lafayette Gold crew and Michigan Gold.

[Prez]

U.S. Navy. SEABEE Battalions mostly. Stationed In Okinawa, Hawaii, Guam, Diego Garcia, Camp Pendleton, Guantanamo Bay and many other "hot vacation" spots!

Prez

[killerxbabe]

U.S. Navy. SEABEE Battalions mostly. Stationed In Okinawa, Hawaii, Guam, Diego Garcia, Camp Pendleton, Guantanamo Bay and many other "hot vacation" spots!

Prez

Argh... so sorry to hear that, lol. Never made it to any of those places excpet Pearl, but I hear Diego Garcia is truly the armpit of the universe.

[Prez]

Believe it or not, Diego wasn't that bad.
Facilites there were great and we got to Singapore regularly. If you haven't been to Singapore..whew...now that is a Hot Spot!

Also caught a military flight to Australia for a couple of days while on Diego. I don't think I have to say anything else about that... ;)

Prez

[Hashmalum]

257 pounds? Oh youre measuring by chin. Listen here computer boy, you wanna call me a kid yet if you are older than 25 and come onto a videogame forum you must have no life so I would think before I insult. I dont give a crap about your military training either we would see how far that got you as I slap you around like a little girl

[killerxbabe]

:( I heard stories about Australia from some former skimmer pukes (surface navy guys) that switched to subs.... I think I hate you now, lol. Man I shouldn't have gone boomer. Almost no good ports. Amazing how some countries react funny when they think you parking nukes in their living room. Ah well, thank God I'm not doing that for a living anymore at least.

[killerxbabe]

257 pounds? Oh youre measuring by chin. Listen here computer boy, you wanna call me a kid yet if you are older than 25 and come onto a videogame forum you must have no life so I would think before I insult. I dont give a crap about your military training either we would see how far that got you as I slap you around like a little girl


You slap little girls?

[Prez]

I never really thought about the nuke thing that much until I was in Japan. Those people have an obsession about nukes (for obvious reasons).

We had permanant protestors parked outside of Yokuska Naval Base protesting the Aricraft Carrier that was stationed there.

Things that we take for granted here are just not accepted on a worldwide basis. The right to free speech for example, many people take it for granted and don't have a clue what its like to not have that privilage.

Why did you choose boomers? I wanted to get into aviation, but unfortunately I was too tall.

Overall I wouldn't trade the Navy experience for anything. But like you, I'm glad to be a stationed at CIVPAC.

Prez

[killerxbabe]

Guess I picked boomers due to the fact that your out 3 months then back. At the time it seemed like it would suck to be stuck on boat year round. Hadn't occurred to me about the "never go anywhere never see anything" portion of boomer life. Wanted to try and go officer to do the pilot thing, but they are kinda picky when it comes to eyesight. Besides at 18, 6 years just doesn't seem like it's going to be that long. Big whoops there. Got to pull into Breast, France for the 200th Bastille day at least. Never seen an entire country drunk all at the same time. Pretty fun time.

[Prez]

Looks like I have to take off, but it's been great talking with you killerxbabe.

Amazing how a flame thread can produce a positive experience!

If you're around the GAT channel, say hello. I'm usually hanging around with friends or doing baal runs.

Prez

[killerxbabe]

You too Prez. GL and be safe.

I'll /w about the charm tonight Irish. Actually boss just left so I may try now. MUWAHAHHAHAHA!!!

[Hashmalum]

A flame thread? It was a peaceful trading thread til your moron *** stuck your nose in here and caused trouble. You are a total jackass plain and simple.

Sorry to everyone in here that was trying to trade with me, I may make another thread. And thanks for the trade frezzist.

[Frezzist]

Sorry, hashmalum, I traded with the other guy, He didn't make me wait.

[Shadoway]

Things that we take for granted here are just not accepted on a worldwide basis. The right to free speech for example, many people take it for granted and don't have a clue what its like to not have that privilage.

Well, it is not accepted because US military only protect the rights (including free speech) of US citizen and some close allies at most (at an either economic or political cost). They treat citizens of certain countries like pigs. Some foreigners are kept in prison at Guantanamo Bay without a court trial or any defense lawyer (I would not criticize if they are indeed convicted as terriorists in a court). In case you want to know about me, I am a Canadian and only 16% of all Canadians would elect Bush in 2004 if they were US citizens.

[Hashmalum]

Frezz what r u talking about? we did trade. omg here we go...

[Prez]

Shadoway -
Your comment seems designed to instigate a debate on U.S. Foreign Policy. While such a debate would prove interesting, I doubt that anything useful would come from such a debate.

Suffice it to say that I have an unique prospective of the Guantanamo Bay situation, having been there and seen first hand how the "inmates" are treated. My role while in Guantanamo Bay was the construction of the "camps". I use this term loosely since these camps included all the comforts of an American life style. Comforts that many of the "inmates" had never had before in their previous existence. Yes, they were confined to certain areas, but only those specifically identified as being dangerous were truly held as prisoners. The media has sensationalized this situation as they are prone to do.

As far as the reason these "camps" exist. These prisoners are in limbo due to their previous ties with terrositic organizations. Most are probably innocent of any wrongdoing, but by bringing them to the U.S. they gain status in legal proceedings and force the U.S. Government to reveal potentially sensitive information to prosecute them. They can't be released, because they potentially could be involved in a future terroristic activity, resulting in a claim of negligence against the U.S. Government. So while I agree in principle with you that people should not be held without a fair trial, there just doesn't seem to be an answer to this problem at the moment other than holding these people.

As the last remaing Super Power, the U.S. has been placed in the not so envious postion of having to play world wide policeman. Trying to protect the civil liberties of other people is a noble cause. But when you try and do something of that nature, you end up with a mess such as Iraq. So its a no-win situation.

In the end, its easy to sit north of the border and play Monday morning quarterback.

Prez

[Shadoway]

1) The prisoners may not have enjoyed all the facilities before. But, have they been given a choice to kept enjoying it or leave?

2) If they are suspects, give them a trial. If there is not enough evidence to convict them in a trail, release them (not into US, of course). It is that simple. You defended it because your country is envolved. But for most Canadians and Europeans, that is against the Geneva Convention. Remember, we are truly inpartial and we are not enemies of the US after all (there is nothing to be gained by suggesting US to release them). The US government knows it is illegal (in terms of US law) to keep them without a trial---that's why they are kept in a small island instead of any of the 50 states.

3) The world will not end if US doesn't police it anymore. Human civilization existed for thousands of years before US was established. US is just like the Roman Empire. It represented the highest achievement in economic, scientific and social aspects of its day. However, no nation is going to last forever and no society represents justice forever. There will always be a downfall and rebirth of some kind.

[Prez]

I think that you are being a bit of an idealist to suggest that we "give them a trial or release them..."

It just isn't that simple. As it is, they are being held as prisoners of war, so detaining them under that premise is legal.

I agree with you, no nation lasts forever. Nations blossum and fall based on their political/economic strength. Darwinism at the most macro level. Those nations with strong economic and political roots flourish, those that don't fail. All countries evolve or they are overtaken by one that is better and get replaced.

This is happening today in countires that had communism. Communism is actually a very viable system in theory, but in practice it gave absolute power to a very few with no checks and balances. Absolute power corrupts, and the system failed.

The world wil continue on if the U.S. doesn't police it...true. But at what cost? Isolationist's would have you believe that you can exist without interaction with others. That we don't need anyone else. Natural resources and lack therof demand that we maintain a world peace, or at least a pretense of one so that economies flourish. Who is going to do it if we don't? The Romans understood this and flourished for a millinium. Their downfall was that they were conquerors that took what they required from the Greeks, etc. Eventually those that they conquered rose up and replaced them.

The U.S. culture and way of life lures many by its freedom and economic wealth, not by the sword.

In the end, the U.S will continue to evolve or be replaced by something better.

Prez

[Shadoway]

This debate remind me of some hero action films (batman, for example). In these films, the hero will always turn the bad guy into the hands of police instead of killing them. What made the United States so great is the rule of law, even if it may seem naive or idealism. You just cannot play dirty with dirty people; otherwise you will be on their level. The treatment of the prisoners are not legal in any aspect. Even war criminals deserve a court trial and a defence laywer. In WWII, the top war criminals from both Germany and Japan are sentences according to international law, with the participation of many nations.

Disregard of the rule of law in the name of "special situation" or something like that is not new. One major step Hitler took was to pass a law that would grant the rule absolute power (power about the law) in times of emergency. No wonder a German minister said Bush was just like Hitler and as of now the majority of Europans thinks US/Iseral are the biggest threat to world peace(according to MaClean's, Canada's equivalent of Time). The American law has been there for a reason. The law is written by wise men like Washington, Jefferson, etc. I wouldn't mind if Mr.Bush wants to modify the Constitution. But he knew that would be hard. Thus, he chose to keep those prisoners on an island where American constitution does not apply.

As for the cost of not acting, I don't really believe the US sent troops aboard for world peace. Iseral is as cruel to the Palestinians as the Serbian to the Kosovo people, did the US even condenm Iseral verbally? No. There are so many influencial Jewish Americans. The largest humanitian disaster did not happen in Iraq, it happened in central Africa (somewhere close to Republic of Congo). About 2-3 million people died there in the past 10 years due to ethnic/political conflicts. But then, there's no oil there (at least not according to most recent infomation). We all know Saddam is a cruel dictator and Iraq probably had WMD. But why didn't Bush Senior finish the regiem 10 years ago? I don't doubt that you are an honorable soldier serving your country and serving for the cause of peace. However, I serious doubt the integrity of those policy makers (Bush included). I am more with Michael Moore on this issue.

[satori]

A flame thread? It was a peaceful trading thread til your moron *** stuck your nose in here and caused trouble. You are a total jackass plain and simple.

Sorry to everyone in here that was trying to trade with me, I may make another thread. And thanks for the trade frezzist.


It wasn't much of a "trade" thread, since you didn't even bother to
respond to any offers except one, and generally displayed the
moronic "WUG" trade channel method of trading....



satori

[wangboBW]

hash, i dont know you, but i think you really show calm down. or you will never be respected in these forum. but by the way your acting i doubt you will even be able to not get banned,,,,

[slick4hire]

This debate remind me of some hero action films (batman, for example). In these films, the hero will always turn the bad guy into the hands of police instead of killing them. What made the United States so great is the rule of law, even if it may seem naive or idealism. You just cannot play dirty with dirty people; otherwise you will be on their level. The treatment of the prisoners are not legal in any aspect. Even war criminals deserve a court trial and a defence laywer. In WWII, the top war criminals from both Germany and Japan are sentences according to international law, with the participation of many nations.

The war on terror is not over. In WW2, the war trials were not conducted until the conclusion of the war.


As for the cost of not acting, I don't really believe the US sent troops aboard for world peace. Iseral is as cruel to the Palestinians as the Serbian to the Kosovo people, did the US even condenm Iseral verbally? No. There are so many influencial Jewish Americans.

Instead of criticizing the actions of Israel, perhaps you should consider that suicide bombers occur so frequently that it has become a way of life in Israel. Irregardless of the actions of the 2 sides, you are not taking into consideration the third parties, namely Hezbollah and the other extremist organizations that will disrupt the peace process at all costs because extermination of jews is their end goal. What would you do in Israels position?


The largest humanitian disaster did not happen in Iraq, it happened in central Africa (somewhere close to Republic of Congo). About 2-3 million people died there in the past 10 years due to ethnic/political conflicts. But then, there's no oil there (at least not according to most recent infomation). We all know Saddam is a cruel dictator and Iraq probably had WMD.

You answered your own inconsistency. And not "probably", they had WMD. All countries on the UN Security Council agree on that. The only question is what did they do with them...


But why didn't Bush Senior finish the regiem 10 years ago?

I am trying to determine the relevance of this statement.


I am more with Michael Moore on this issue.

Michael Moore, unfortunately, has an agenda and uses his skewed world view to advance the agenda of people who would see anyone but Bush get reelected.

Understand, I am not a big fan of Bush either, but all of this hatred of the U.S. is starting to wear on my normally high level of tolerance. The last time the "world" hated the U.S. was during the cold war, when a nuclear build up and a missile defense system was viewed as instigating. Now, 15 years later, we see the benefits. Take a look at Eastern Europe; ask Czechoslovakia or Poland if they are happier now then they were behind the iron curtain.

If the U.S. were to pull all foreign, humanitarian and military aid it currently provides throughout the world, how many more would suffer?

[moosh]

Ok well back to trading.

I'll trade an Um rune for the 70 Kiras. Using the priceguide stickied on the forum

[Mr.Bogohossian]

Ok well back to trading.

I'll trade an Um rune for the 70 Kiras. Using the priceguide stickied on the forum
Hashmalum was banned for immature acts.

[wangboBW]

ya so he can't really get back to you sorry t.t

[moosh]

ya so he can't really get back to you sorry t.t

Banned_from_the_forums_or_from_battle.net?

My_space_bar_isn't_working_at_the_moment_heh.