Do Frenzy barbs work?

[Mrbeez]

Interested in knowing before i go ahead and making one. I was planning on using a Doom and an eterity :P. 33%slow and holy freeze should be quite interesting on a frenzy barb. Lemme know if they work anymore or if im just wasting my time thx

[SwordOfJusticeX]

firstly, slow and holy freeze from doom is considered rather bm in duels so be prepare for obscenities to be coming ur way if u use them together o.O

also, as the saying goes, shieldless barb = dead barb. a frenzy barb has almost no chance against any good melee char, although i suppose u could do well against casters *if* u charge up first :scratch:

overall, i would say u should probably make another build but heh a frenzy barb could be fun for a change :uhhuh:

-sword

[LLD-Vampire]

firstly, slow and holy freeze from doom is considered rather bm in duels so be prepare for obscenities to be coming ur way if u use them together o.O

also, as the saying goes, shieldless barb = dead barb. a frenzy barb has almost no chance against any good melee char, although i suppose u could do well against casters *if* u charge up first :scratch:

overall, i would say u should probably make another build but heh a frenzy barb could be fun for a change :uhhuh:

-sword

My double throw barb used frenzy a lot it shredded casters and did decent against some melees but with doom I think you could do ok but like a charger or wwer would just massacure you


PS My cat just scared off a dog 6 times his size funniest thing I have ever seen!

[Ash Housewares]

I don't see how frenzy could work well in pvp

even against casters, the frenzy barb previously had the strength that it could run super quick but what good is that now when any character can teleport away faster?

I haven't done any pvp with frenzy since .09 and back then I had some success against lazy sorcs when I caught them by surprise but that was it.

[LLD-Vampire]

I don't see how frenzy could work well in pvp

even against casters, the frenzy barb previously had the strength that it could run super quick but what good is that now when any character can teleport away faster?

I haven't done any pvp with frenzy since .09 and back then I had some success against lazy sorcs when I caught them by surprise but that was it.

well all you have to do is hold a click they have to tele around and after 1 hit you'll run to fast for them to be able to attack you but I was a thrower hybrid so maybe you should try that? DT can reach 6 frames at 25% ias 5.5 at 40 and 5 frames at 80 if you get a IAS helm or armor you can probably get to 100 or 170

[Mrbeez]

Thx dont know if im going to make it now... if you guys had 2 recemend another kind of char for Pub dueling (nething goes) so i can trash talk to newbs who think there something. Dont care how cheap i am :P. I was thinking about using clegs gloves/noscoil and the bow that give 5 to guided arrow LOL! just 2 slow em b4 i move in for the kill.

[LLD-Vampire]

Thx dont know if im going to make it now... if you guys had 2 recemend another kind of char for Pub dueling (nething goes) so i can trash talk to newbs who think there something. Dont care how cheap i am :P. I was thinking about using clegs gloves/noscoil and the bow that give 5 to guided arrow LOL! just 2 slow em b4 i move in for the kill.

Widow maker is ladder only and there is a cap on slow now so..

[Mrbeez]

i am ladder first of all and it does not matter slow still effects allot

[LLD-Vampire]

i am ladder first of all and it does not matter slow still effects allot


so get widow maker and make a bowasorc enchantress it's 1/3 damage but still kicks ***

[thee_captor]

Slow in LLD is very very *** and more and more people are using it but as for high lvls im not sure how it go's. Cept back in 09 a slow KB zon was *** cause their is no use in dueling unless u have tely, but they got nerfed so im not sure. As for the "saying" go's i think it is no shield=no win. I didnt know holy freeze was considered BM even tho its ***.

One more thing Mrbeez u say your doing this to beat noobs so u can trash talk to them but if u do u are just as bad as they are.

I think every1 should Melee duel! haha that would be something eh? no running away and spamming projectiles. Just 1 on 1 dueling. But then again thats just MHO and i am also on 56k haha.

[bloembak]

1) I don't want to hear or read "newb-calling" on the forums anymore. Because it leads to replies that push a subject further and further. Clear?

thee_captor, I know exactly what those *** mean, and I don't want to see them, clear?.. You officially made the first post after the spring cleaning that I dislike, watch your mouth and your fingers.

Carry on.

[Joe_smith]

1) I don't want to hear or read "newb-calling" on the forums anymore. Because it leads to replies that push a subject further and further. Clear?

thee_captor, I know exactly what those *** mean, and I don't want to see them, clear?.. You officially made the first post after the spring cleaning that I dislike, watch your mouth and your fingers.

Carry on.

newbie is not an offensive word. a lot of people take it as a horrible insult i dunno why. and sometimes people actually use the word newb to refer to people who are new to the game but it seems like a cussword on this forum. how should we refer to inexperienced players then? rookies?

[mepersoner]

I usually refer to them as "newer players".

[bloembak]

Calling someone who is new a newbie in a normal, non-offensive manner, or calling yourself a newbie is fine with me. But I don't want to read:

"so i can trash talk to newbs who think there something" or any replies to such comments. IF you "think" you're superior I don't care, but don't act arrogant and post in such ways.

Make sense? If you want you can PM me to discuss that, but it's not gonna happen here in this thread ;)

carry on on-topic ;)

[Joe_smith]

Interested in knowing before i go ahead and making one. I was planning on using a Doom and an eterity :P. 33%slow and holy freeze should be quite interesting on a frenzy barb. Lemme know if they work anymore or if im just wasting my time thx

frenzy barbs are great but i think frenzy/ww hybrid works better. frenzy is good for bm duels and ffa. cuz you need to charge it up first if you wanna catch people. if you have good gear (i suggest using botd/beast zerkers) you can chop up even ww barbs pretty fast. and when you are running fast you can easily chop tele chars in the face by just name locking them. super fast run speed + ww is a good way of catching people too. i haven't seen a really well equiped frenzy barb though.

[DoC-Makaveli]

I had a very nice barb that used frenzy in early 1.10... frenzy was not his main skill, but rather a way to gain speed... the speed can be FASTER than tele for most characters... you can go faster than 9-10 fps tele... my build was a hybrid frenzy/zerk/throw... here it is:

stats
str: none to 20 (depending on small equip differences)
dex: enough for max block w/ stormshield (222 @ lvl 99)
vit: everything else
energy: none

skills:
20 Berserk
20 Axe Mastery (sword mastery would work if you don't want to use Doom)
20 Throwing Mastery
20 Battle Orders
1 Double Throw
1 Frenzy
1 Increased Speed
1 Natural Res
the rest to Shout (berserk synergy) -- 18 @ lvl 99

items:
Helm: Arreat's Face (40/10 min jewel)
Amulet: +2 Barb, 10% r/w, 4% LL, 20 Dex, Reses Craft
WeaponA1*: Ethereal BoTD Berserker Axe
WeaponA2*: Doom Berserker Axe (good mannered alternative: Beast Berserker Axe -> possibly Famine... I prefer the Beast though)
WeaponB1*: Cruel Winged Harpoon of Quickness
WeaponB2*: Ethereal Lacerator (good mannered alternative: Demon Arch)
Armor: Enigma Dusk Shroud (breast plate works fine... life > def)
Gloves: 20ias/6 LL/10% Crushing Blow/15 Dex/30 Light Res Craft
Ring1: Ravenfrost
Ring2: Ravenfrost (good mannered alternative: str/dex/reses rare ring)
Belt: Verdungo's
Boots: Rare boots with 30 r/w, 18 str, 12 dex, 40 fire res, 29 light res
Shield (vs. some characters): 40% ED/-Reqs Stormshield
Charms: 1 Annihilus Charm, 20x 3max/5rw sc's, 19x 3max/20 life sc's (just get as close to these as u can if it's on ladder... just make sure u have enough r/w)

*A weapons = weapon switch 1
*B weapons = weapon switch 2

[Joe_smith]

I had a very nice barb that used frenzy in early 1.10... frenzy was not his main skill, but rather a way to gain speed... the speed can be FASTER than tele for most characters... you can go faster than 9-10 fps tele... my build was a hybrid frenzy/zerk/throw... here it is:

stats
str: none to 20 (depending on small equip differences)
dex: enough for max block w/ stormshield (222 @ lvl 99)
vit: everything else
energy: none

skills:
20 Berserk
20 Axe Mastery (sword mastery would work if you don't want to use Doom)
20 Throwing Mastery
20 Battle Orders
1 Double Throw
1 Frenzy
1 Increased Speed
1 Natural Res
the rest to Shout (berserk synergy) -- 18 @ lvl 99

items:
Helm: Arreat's Face (40/10 min jewel)
Amulet: +2 Barb, 10% r/w, 4% LL, 20 Dex, Reses Craft
WeaponA1*: Ethereal BoTD Berserker Axe
WeaponA2*: Doom Berserker Axe (good mannered alternative: Beast Berserker Axe -> possibly Famine... I prefer the Beast though)
WeaponB1*: Cruel Winged Harpoon of Quickness
WeaponB2*: Ethereal Lacerator (good mannered alternative: Demon Arch)
Armor: Enigma Dusk Shroud (breast plate works fine... life > def)
Gloves: 20ias/6 LL/10% Crushing Blow/15 Dex/30 Light Res Craft
Ring1: Ravenfrost
Ring2: Ravenfrost (good mannered alternative: str/dex/reses rare ring)
Belt: Verdungo's
Boots: Rare boots with 30 r/w, 18 str, 12 dex, 40 fire res, 29 light res
Shield (vs. some characters): 40% ED/-Reqs Stormshield
Charms: 1 Annihilus Charm, 20x 3max/5rw sc's, 19x 3max/20 life sc's (just get as close to these as u can if it's on ladder... just make sure u have enough r/w)

*A weapons = weapon switch 1
*B weapons = weapon switch 2

hmm interesting how did berzerk work with frenzy? easy to hit people with?

[DoC-Makaveli]

if u mean the axes, zerkers are range 3, so thats good...

if u mean the skill zerk, i would use frenzy to raise r/w and attack speed and then zerk with the botd and then use zerk... hits well because i had over 22k AR with it... this build works especially well vs casters... throwing works good vs sorcs, bone armor doesnt screw up the zerk damage vs necros, cyclone armor doesnt affect zerk/frenzy damage vs druids...