is rabies melee?

[Manifesto]

is rabies melee? in a lot of duel games, people constantly ***** about it not being melee when their life drains rapidly and then die. some people say it is and some people say it isn’t. Im kind of mixed up to go with whether it is or not. comments? suggestions?

[Asheron]

Quit d00ling in pubbies,it just makes your IQ drop. ;o

[JustGotOwned]

is rabies melee? in a lot of duel games, people constantly ***** about it not being melee when their life drains rapidly and then die. some people say it is and some people say it isn’t. Im kind of mixed up to go with whether it is or not. comments? suggestions?

A melee attack for the most part is an attack which if you click on a char from a distance requires you to move closer by ie: running or walking. If it can be casted from far away then it is considered ranged. Hence WW is ranged and Zerk is melee. I dont know if that makes sense. But that's my understanding of it.

[Manifesto]

A melee attack for the most part is an attack which if you click on a char from a distance requires you to move closer by ie: running or walking. If it can be casted from far away then it is considered ranged. Hence WW is ranged and Zerk is melee. I dont know if that makes sense. But that's my understanding of it.

wat about smite? im kinda convinced smite isnt melee. but from wat u said, it kinda sounds like its melee. is it? :scratch:

[A_S_G]

wat about smite? im kinda convinced smite isnt melee. but from wat u said, it kinda sounds like its melee. is it? :scratch:

Well. .you don't use it from afar, and it does physical damage, but ya stupid people in public duels complain about it, not my fault they can't win.


~A_S_G

[LLD-Vampire]

if it isn't ranged and needs AR I would concider it melee

[Manifesto]

Well. .you don't use it from afar, and it does physical damage, but ya stupid people in public duels complain about it, not my fault they can't win.

yea but it also has ITD, does knockback and stun. :grrr:

[SwordOfJusticeX]

i would say rabies is melee although its elemental damage
berserk is pure magical damage but no one complains that its not melee
against people who complain against u, either ignore them or fury/fireclaw/tank them after u infect them till they die to shut them up

-sword

[-Infinite-]

if you wanna be technical, melee is any non-ranged attack that invovles phys. dmg. therefore, count out any ele/magic skills such as rabies/berserk.

also, imo, melee should require AR, so that throws out smite. melee should have a %chance to hit thats less than 100% (like smite)

for some odd reason, i dont really see why ww isnt considered melee. yes you can start it from a range, but u need to be CLOSE to hit it, so why isnt it considered melee.

imo, anything not ranged/not smite/not a casted spell is melee. but thats my view.

[Manifesto]

this keeps becoming more confusing post by post.

[SwordOfJusticeX]

well what is melee and what is not is a debate that can never be settled *sigh*

i suggest sticking by ur own beliefs :thumbsup:

-sword

[Jova1]

There was another post on what is melee.

In my opinion melee is any attack that can not be cast at your opponent and is not a ranged attack in other words throwing spears or shooting arrows/bolts is ranged.

You can't say melee is any pure physical attack, because then you have to exclude poison charms in your inventory or elemental damage on you melee weapon and that does not make sense. You will have to exclude berserk cause it is magical damage and that does not make sense. Also tornado is pure phsycal and that is no way a melee attack because it is cast.

Rabies is a melee attack that happens to deal out poison, no different to having zeal which is pure physical damage and transfering elemental damage like poison damage from poison charms in your inventory or elemental damage from your weapon like magical damage from light saber.

So in my opinion smite is melee and ww is also melee, both are not cast and are not range attacks. WW is not cast it is just happens to look like a cast attack and is not a range attack a whirling barbarian is no different to a running/walking or leaping barbarian in terms of getting from A to B. In a real battle if someone whirled around to attack you, that would be considered melee.

cheers.

[LLD-Vampire]

if you wanna be technical, melee is any non-ranged attack that invovles phys. dmg. therefore, count out any ele/magic skills such as rabies/berserk.

also, imo, melee should require AR, so that throws out smite. melee should have a %chance to hit thats less than 100% (like smite)

for some odd reason, i dont really see why ww isnt considered melee. yes you can start it from a range, but u need to be CLOSE to hit it, so why isnt it considered melee.

imo, anything not ranged/not smite/not a casted spell is melee. but thats my view.

rabies is a small part physical my zealer has a charm with 2 fire damage is he no longer melee for using some elemental damage, so what if it's a lot more pd then physical it needs AR and it's not ranged it's melee!!

Melee's defination is "confused hand to hand combat" rar

[mepersoner]

Yes it is.

Don't let people confuse you, smite and whirlwind are melee too. ;)

[Black_Dog]

whenever someone complains about my rabies not being melee, i take off my rabies gear, slap on my fury gear and beat them that way... then i tell them to suck on that...

EDIT!!: basically what i'm saying is that it's good to have a back up plan... if they complain about rabies, then use something that you KNOW is melee and duel them that way...
tip of the day... be versatile

[Herald of Doom]

Yes it is.

Don't let people confuse you, smite and whirlwind are melee too. ;)

Normally I'd agree 100%, if Diablo was a logical world. But every other melee attack (well i think every other, might be wrong a wee bit :p ) requires you to walk over to a person and hit, with AR. Smite+ww have a very unfair advantage against all other melee attacks, therefore I consider them melee, but very unfair melee. If a normal melee dueller asked me to stop ww-ing I'd say ok, and get my kicksin and defeat him that way :p

HoD

[LLD-Vampire]

here if they complain nk them and squelch them complainers suck most of all since there probably a teleing bone nec using marrow glitch

[mcm]

Melee = hand to hand combat. I think most of us know what this as it pertains to various skills in D2. It has nothing to do with the type of damage dealt, but rather how it is dealt. Range is meaningless. War pike is range 5, it is relatively "ranged" compared to a mace. Both are hand to hand weapons. Both are melee.
WW is melee. Smite is melee. Assassin blade shield is not melee, yet it has the least range of any attack in the game.
Some attacks are melee by virtue of the fact that they contain a melee component (charged strike.) Whether this is allowed in a "Melee only game" is up to the players in that game.
People like to confuse this issue because they want as few opponents as possible being lumped into the same "class" of fighter they are in, simply to give them an excuse when they lose.

[Gotcha]

Yes it is.

Don't let people confuse you, smite and whirlwind are melee too. ;)



No matter how much people complain smite is indeed melee & AR is not how you account for a melee chr. Also ww is melee and is the range of the weapon.

Both are melee no matter what people say. People just need to deal with it. If you are a zealer and want to fight only melee then accept all melee type chr's even though smite builds will most likely kill you. Or, if you are a complainer just fight other zealers.

It is as simple as that.

[squigipapa]

It dosen't matter. In a pubbie dule, if you happen to kill someone, YOU did something wrong!!! Of course ww is melee, you can't die from IM with a ranged attack. and I know, you can't die from IM while using zerk, however it's magic, but still melee.

Melee, cannot be defined as only physical, that's insane! almost every weapon in the game has some sort of added damage to it (elemental etc.)

Melee is all about range. If you can hit someone with your weapon, without using arrows or bolts, and without throwing said weapon. It's melee. Period!

I think basically any attack where weapon range comes into play should be considered melee. Yes, I can start a ww from a screen away, however you won't take a hit until you're within my weapon range. I have to be just as close to someone to zerk/conc them as I have to be to ww them.

[Cybulski]

imo anything thats closecombat and is not a projektile is a melee attack.

[Zelc]

It dosen't matter. In a pubbie dule, if you happen to kill someone, YOU did something wrong!!! Of course ww is melee, you can't die from IM with a ranged attack. and I know, you can't die from IM while using zerk, however it's magic, but still melee.

Melee, cannot be defined as only physical, that's insane! almost every weapon in the game has some sort of added damage to it (elemental etc.)

Melee is all about range. If you can hit someone with your weapon, without using arrows or bolts, and without throwing said weapon. It's melee. Period!

I think basically any attack where weapon range comes into play should be considered melee. Yes, I can start a ww from a screen away, however you won't take a hit until you're within my weapon range. I have to be just as close to someone to zerk/conc them as I have to be to ww them.

What about Charge? It moves you to the target, requires AR, weapon range comes into play, and it doesn't require arrows, bolts, or throwing. However, it cannot be used at close range.

[DOUCHYMCDOUCHERSTIEN]

melee= eveyattack but bow skills,thrown java skills,foh,hammers,all bone skills except poison dagger,auras,curses,warcrys,double throw,elemental skills,sorc skills,traps,summons,and shockwave

did i miss any?

[Buliarios]

Ok all u talkin about melee I got a new concpet about it..... All you saying melee is close up combat, how about I get my necromancer teleport right next to ur barb and spam him with spirits is that melee?????

Well I think, WW and Smite are both melee and it doesn't matter wat other people say, and all that sorta stuff like Rabies is aswell. Deal with it for those people who don't think its melee

[goneil]

Usually in melee games any moving skills are not considered melee (ww,smite,charge, ect.). Skills with huge elemental damage are sometimes considered BM (rabies, fireclaws, charged strike). Charged strike is especially BM because it always hits, and many people wont even duel cs zons.
What is considered melee or not is highly debateable, and there are many different opinions out there. My suggestion is to find out what your opponent finds to be BM and try to come to a agreement about the skills you can use to duel with.

[mooseontheloose]

My opinion is that you should have to remain still when meleeing. I have no prob with WW in melee so that's the exception, but things like Charge aren't melee because a Melee duels means close combat. Hand to hand. This can't be done if one person can attack from far out while the other waits to be hit before even starting the duel. WW and Smite are both fine because unless the WWer has a huge range weap a Zealot or whatever can attack at the same time the WW begins to hit.

Thats my take on it :)

[Soepgroente]

What about Charge? It moves you to the target, requires AR, weapon range comes into play, and it doesn't require arrows, bolts, or throwing. However, it cannot be used at close range.
The moment you hit you're very close. That's my idea of melee; having to be close at the time of strike. By close i mean in weapon-range.

[LLD-Vampire]

my d2 definition of melee is still non ranged attack that needs AR, I concider ww melee because it needs AR and can be blocked smite can't.