USwest NL SC tourney

[LLD-Vampire]

After reading the thread about the east tourney I decided to try to get one going on west with similar rules. It will pretty much be fair pubby duels.

There MIGHT be a prize my friends quiting the game and selling most of his stuff on ebay but I can probably get an enigma or something out of him for this.

Rules

All duels will be held in hell and will be 1 on 1.
All duels it will be best out of 5 duels.
All duelers must remain in the blood moor the entire time leaving at ANY time is a loss.
Using shrines or wells of any kind is a loss.
If you both kill eachother whoever died 2nd is the winner.
No pots except mana since we can't tell if your using them anyway.
No nking.
1 %absorb item allowed and 1 regular absorb item allowed.(May change based on char your against)
Resist capped at 80.(May change based on char your against)
Resist stacking IS allowed.
No Mercs.
No out of town summons.
No summon druids sitting in town!
Charged items are allowed.
CTA, Enigma and any other non class skill items are allowed.
No 290 pdscs 3/20/20 scs or items containing 40/15s will be allowed.
No hacked or bugged items allowed though there are very few left.
No marrow walks.
Only 1 char per person is allowed to compete.
Opponents will be selected randomly.
There will be 2 judges in each duel 1 to follow each char around.
I will be 1 and I need 1 more person (need enigma and be able to keep up with them without getting in the way) You can be in the competition and be a judge but you can't judge your own duel (duh)

Any of these rules can be changed if both people agree.

Ok tell me anything I missed anything or if I should change anything

post your

Account Name
Class
Char Type
Level

[LLD-Vampire]

*Seafoodman
Necromancer
Bone Necromancer
83

[Shisho]

Dark-Angel
Necro
Bone Nec
Lvl 91

[Shisho]

marrowalks should be allowed. Most necros built their char around that. Anywho if its alllowed im in , if not then count me out

[ReVolution]

No 290 pdscs 3/20/20 scs or items containing 40/15s will be allowed.

I don't agree with this..duped perfect charms/jewels have the same effect as legit equivalents..and only a few incredibly rich people could afford an inv of legit 3/ar/life and 39/15 ias jewels. Plus melee is so item-dependent that you really don't stand a chance against good casters without that kind of stuff.

Also..are you prohibiting just those 3 kinds of dupes, or dupes in general? If its just those 3 then thats a glaring double standard..

If you decide to allow duped charms/jewels, I'm in for sure..

*XE-ReVolution
Melee
WW barb
Lvl 93

edit: the judges following duelers rule is also bad..duelers need the field to be clear of distractions in a hard matchup.

[Buliarios]

Hahaha Bone Necro galore here, what do you expect.
I was going to enter my bone nec but I built a brand new Barb, only problem is he is wearing 40/15ias in his arreats and ss. Could this please be an exception seeing I will be dueling mostly necro's, seeing they will still have the main advantage over me.

MoFo_Inc
Barbarian
WW Barb
88 right now still lvling up.

[fugitive alien2]

absorb/resist rules don't make any sense

[Joe_smith]

absorb/resist rules don't make any sense

bascially get a bone necro and negate elemental casters and tele away all day and spam ibs will win you this tournament.

[sbc84]

Hahaha Bone Necro galore here, what do you expect.
.

Not really. With 1absorb and 80%max resists allowed, high-fcr tele trapsin is the toughest match up for any other chars.

[Joe_smith]

Not really. With 1absorb and 80%max resists allowed, high-fcr tele trapsin is the toughest match up for any other chars.

I guess any class with long range attacks and high mobility will have a chance. just non stop tele away and spam and you'll never lose. see who runs out of patience first.

[JEDi-MiNDTRiCKS]

*a.s.s.-cream(y) without the dots
assassin
ww
lvl 85

still learning how to use her good hehe,

[Jmac_Subz3ro]

*boa_agentgold
Druid
Wind
LvL 82

[Jmac_Subz3ro]

Sorry bout double post, but when is this being held?

[cloakshape66]

actually no tele is allowed so no tele away ibs spamming :) and btw even tho we cant use tele can I still use enigma I dont have a replacement armor I KNEW I shouldve kept that coh ><

not sure if I can participate but just in case
*cloakshape55
Paladin
hammerdin
lvl 85

[Mr.Glasscock]

It wasn't clear if you meant that things like Enigma w/ teleport are allowed, but non sorc chars cannot tele, or if you allow enigma AND tele on all chars. Teleport will unbalance things alot, and end up with duels just being among cookie cutters with their enigmas.

Be specific if you're allowing charged items without using the charges, or using the charged items AND using the charges (oak and such). And I dont know if you're allowing bo, not a good idea if you're allowing oak charges. Not a good idea either way, IMO.

As fugitive said, the absorb/res thing makes no sense. 80 is not nearly enough, and its in hell. I suggest making it kind of clan honor style: 1 absorb item, and then whatever other normal +res or % res you need. For example, 85 lit res in nm is a decent amount, it gives both players a fare chance to go offensive or defensive.

The watching over each dueler during duels does seems like it'd be too crowded. Even if you can't click on them, in the heat of the moment you could mess up and try to hit anything that resembles a character.

For the charm thing (banning 290's, 3/20/20, and 40/15 jewels), as it is the rules seem to be really unfair for any sort of melee. Having a poison limit (didnt see anything about it; sorry if i overlooked it) might help. Checking charms might be sort of difficult, perhaps making sure they have the right amount of charms, and then watching they dont get near stash might work.

The mana potting can be prevented by having each person fill their belt with 16 tp scrolls, or however many slots it has, and making sure they fill up with them after every duel.

I suggest you don't budge on the marrow walk ban. Necs will be extremely overpowered with some of the rules you have. Keep the ban

I think you should try to clump together similar classes, since it'll be kind of unfair to have a zealot go up against blizz sorc or nec. If you get enough people, you might be able to go blizz sorc v blizz sorc, bone nec v bone nec, etc.

And don't allow maphack, scrolling is evil; except I dont see how you can prevent people from using it. So 99% of them probably will.

Hell will further screw melee even more, might want to switch it over to nm; but as someone mentioned oak is immune to phys or something in nm.

Sorry if it got too long or if you have some perfectly good reasons to prove me wrong; these are just my suggestions and i'm used to dueling very gm and evenly. But good job starting this on west. GJ

[chinaboxer]

chinaboxer
necro
bonemancer
lvl 89

sounds like fun..count me in.

[boshekinthunder]

boshekinthunder
Druid
Windy style
lvl 90

There should be no mana pots though, you can check this just by doing a belt check before the duelers go out. IIRC, you can only take your belt off in a trade screen if you have no pots.

[no2fakeshakes]

i agree with the no mana pots

*angry_skool
sorc
fireball
lvl 91

[Joe_smith]

i agree with the no mana pots

*angry_skool
sorc
fireball
lvl 91

lol not everyone has 3k mana like your char.

[no2fakeshakes]

so its u eh? haha...

mmm i always been against any kind of potioning even with a char with less mana, imo i think its the users fault for wasting mana and should learn how to conserve their mana

i think mana potions are bad mannered because most chars use mana to cast or use abilities to kill their opponent, and if they run out out of mana, they have a harder time to kill...mmm i dont know how to xplain it lolz...nvms haha

[Joe_smith]

so its u eh? haha...

mmm i always been against any kind of potioning even with a char with less mana, imo i think its the users fault for wasting mana and should learn how to conserve their mana

i think mana potions are bad mannered because most chars use mana to cast or use abilities to kill their opponent, and if they run out out of mana, they have a harder time to kill...mmm i dont know how to xplain it lolz...nvms haha

can't blame chars like barbs for using mana pots when they have to duel mutliple tele away casters at the same time. banning mana pots in tele duels will just make them overly defensive and boring.

[dumbpig]

lol, no mana pots coming out of a fire sorc.

conflict of interest...

[boshekinthunder]

can't blame chars like barbs for using mana pots when they have to duel mutliple tele away casters at the same time. banning mana pots in tele duels will just make them overly defensive and boring.
I can blame barbs for relying on mana pots to kill. For every point not invested in energy or every item not giving them extra mana, they get life, and usually a lot of it. Combine this with lvl 30+ BO, and they get like 6-7k life and then complain that they cant win without potting, especially if they are teleporting as well. Besides, I believe we're talking about 1v1 duels here, not multiple enemies at the same time.

My point is that you can check a belt for pots and I dont think people should be allowed to use pots to overcome character weaknesses. How is using mana pots because you have low mana different from using antidote pots because you dont have poison length reduced or thawing pots cuz you have low cold resist? What if I build a character with low life and claim he needs to use healing pots to win?

[Buliarios]

Ok, I rebuilt my Barb that I entered earlier on, put a point into battle command that didn't need to be there ^^ thats what cta is for.

Right now he is currently lvl 86, now for that 40/14ias jewel rule has it been decided about an acception at all? Because my Arreats and SS both have on in them but I can't get replacements and don't wanna cube it to remove them.

But here are char stats again

MoFo_Inc
Barbarian
WW
lvl 86 and growing.

[Module88]

Why hell, and why mana pots? Easy way to tell? Before every duel, have both duelers show his belt to you. If he has anything in it at all, he won't be able to. Pots make dueling amazingly unfair, just as hell offers a greater advantage to elemental characters.

[JEDi-MiNDTRiCKS]

Dueling in nm would be better, but allow less resist/absorb maybe?

[LordDrift]

Since resist stacks and absorbs are allowed, cant use trapper or foh'r, so...

*stron
Bone Mancer
Necro
90

[LLD-Vampire]

Ahhh! so many people sorry I couldn't get on over the weekend!

Arg um ok anyway well I really CAN'T ban 290s and 3/20s/20s since I can't see your invintory and I'm not making everyone fill the trade screen before every duel just too complicated same with mana pots people could put them in invintory then put back later.

40/15s I guess are fine since so many items were made 40/15 in 09

Skills like tele and BO from items ARE allowed it could be crazy to try to get so many people to change their build so much.

The scrolling can be noticed with anything homing because unless the person is scrolling and looking at it if your too far away it won't go towards you it will fly straight.(part of the reason for the people watching)

As for the crowded I was thinking of watchers being like sorcs wearing socketed stuff so they are all like 1 color or something the other char will probably NOT be all in 1 color, maybe get people with whole tals set since most duelers don't use sets.

Not giving into marrow walks it's a lame glitch and necros are strong enough they don't need extra points for their curses, and most necros aren't built around this glitch.

Your allowed to use the charges on items it's your money and none of the items will really make it impossible for any char,maybe slow missle most do just as good if not better(necros with HUGE fields of teeth)

well like I said for the resist and absorb some chars get absorbed easily and others don't so I think this is the main problem is decideing how to balance all this out if we allow 85% chars like trappers and lighting and orb sorcs will be killed but for other chars like fire ball sorcs blizz sorcs and stuff they can still slaughter you. Anyone have any ideas to make it fair for lower damage and higher damage chars?


Haven't decided on a day yet dunno some time this month, I'm making a list of the people who posted there info anyone want to help judge?(have or borrow full tals set? purple and glowing will distinguish you a bit from the person your against)

Remeber if you don't like a rule you can still see if your opponent will agree to change it for that duel.

The absorb was like a regular item like tgods or something with just general lighting absorb or a % item like raven frost with 20% cold absorb is what I ment someone said something about being confused don't know if that cleared it up.

[cloakshape66]

well those characters you listed I find are absorb or lose type of chars, If you cant absorb then pretty much any foher, and trapsin with mb will smear me (thats my experience at least)

[boshekinthunder]

Most ligthning sorcs and trappers Ive dueled against dont lose if their opponent only has 85% res. It's 95 res + absorb that kills these chars. Not too sure about FO though since I havent dueled very many good ones lately.

Thing about mods will be that they are still on the minimap and following you around. Maybe if the mod is partied with the dueler he is following, it would make less confusion. At least one of the mods would be a different color. But maybe it would just make things more confusing...

[LLD-Vampire]

k well either the 15th or 22nd for the tourney (both saturdays I think) what day and time would be most convinent for you all so I can choose.

[ReVolution]

I say the 15th.

[soulesschild]

I say the 15th.

i'm game >:), make it a sunday or saturday in the afternoon/night

what is the point of the watchers? i know that people in the game when im dueling 1v1 ALWAYS messes up how i aim, especially if you teleport as well

the belt check idea is a good idea since if you are willing to shove pots into your inv, your losing out on charms/items, or you can do a full inv check before hand in terms of inventory, shouldn't take that long unless you're full of scs :)

for the absorb rule, just say only one piece of absorb, and dont shove a resist limit, else elemental will destroy all classes, I.E. FB sorc, foher/trapper

*souless-pvp
lvl 91
Soulesschild - Bonemancer

[LLD-Vampire]

15th and 22nd are saturdays well I got 1 for 15 and none for 22nd so 15th wins!!

I'm gonna randomly start choosing matchups and posting em.

[no2fakeshakes]

mmm...so what is the absorb and max resist limit ??

[Buliarios]

Well the tournaments lost already..... because souless has just entered :grrr: damn u souless.

Well can we enter 2 chars? I take it were not allowd, so I'm gonna pull my Barb out and put my Necro in there

*MoFo_Inc
85 Bonenecro

[Pure-Demon]

MoTo[Xu]
Necro
Bone
lvl 88

[DarkStar]

Wiz[Darkstar]
Necro
Bone
87

[LordDrift]

damn souless is in we are in trouble

[LordDrift]

i can't do it on the 15th its prom wont be home

22nd will be best

[Joe_smith]

damn souless is in we are in trouble

hehe dont' worry if i'm in souless will be in trouble. he hasn't killed me yet in tele duels.

[GhostlyDragon]

king-of-gods
assasin
trap
87

[LLD-Vampire]

OK fine it's on the 22nd, give me more time to try to get my last few items.

Sorry I've been grounded and could only get on at school but now I'm not so I am going to go start maching up people. No one else put names because your to late. brb


BTW is anyone gonna help me or anything? I'm gonna be the only one whos watching since people complained about 2, but I could use some help with like setting up times for duels and stuff.

In a sec I'm gonna post all the names of people who put it down and then anyone can tell me if I missed them or anything.

[GhostlyDragon]

ahhhhh so much necros :rant:

[LLD-Vampire]

*Seafoodman
Necromancer
Bone Necromancer
83

Dark-Angel
Necro
Bone Nec
Lvl 91

*XE-ReVolution
Melee
WW barb
Lvl 93

MoFo_Inc
Necromancer
Bone
85

*a.s.s.-cream(y) without the dots
assassin
ww
lvl 85


*boa_agentgold
Druid
Wind
LvL 82

*cloakshape55
Paladin
hammerdin
lvl 85

chinaboxer
necro
bonemancer
lvl 89

boshekinthunder
Druid
Windy style
lvl 90

*angry_skool
sorc
fireball
lvl 91

*stron
Bone Mancer
Necro
90

*souless-pvp
Soulesschild
Bonemancer
lvl 91

MoTo[Xu]
Necro
Bone
lvl 88

Wiz[Darkstar]
Necro
Bone
87

king-of-gods
assasin
trap
87

Thats 15 people

[GhostlyDragon]

remember not too much absrob. like 1 % absorb item and 1 + absorb item plz :drink:

[LLD-Vampire]

remember not too much absrob. like 1 % absorb item and 1 + absorb item plz :drink:


Thats the rule, but also if you can absorb a char using those you have to take something off or lower your resist so that they don't do nothing.

[LordDrift]

this should be fun

[no2fakeshakes]

mmm i have a feel questions...

what is the max resist limit and is potting allowed??

btw im lvl 92 now =P

[LLD-Vampire]

mmm i have a feel questions...

what is the max resist limit and is potting allowed??

btw im lvl 92 now =P


I've pretty much changed the resist/absorb rule to the person using element has to be able to do decent enough damage to have a chance, and no health pots or mana but I can't stop you from using mana because I won't check all the invintory and belt!

[ReVolution]

Btw, I'm lvl 94 now >< (XE-ReVolutioN)

[no2fakeshakes]

blah......

[Joe_smith]

blah......

with rules like these i doubt your fbs will do more than 1 digit damage to souless.

[no2fakeshakes]

i hope not haha, i hope me and trapper will not be overabsorbed by anyone, which is why i want a more definite and exact rule on max resists/+absorb/%absorbed instead of what is considered decent dmg

[LordDrift]

I think absorb rules should be changed to 2 items with absorb. 1 items with % absorb and the other with + to absorb, i think thats fair.

example:1 Wisp + Black Horns or 1 Wisp + Tgods

NO: 2 Wisps

MAx Resist should be capped at 1 item as well, but if your using absorb you cannot use 2 items of absorb + Max Resists item

Example: Yes(Dwarf + Hotspurs)
NO(Hotspurs + Dwarf + Hell Mouth)

Resist stacking shouldn't be allowed because what if an FOH'r comes, with a 160LR shield it pretty much rules out most damage. If its out then ill put out necro and slap in Mage

[Cheatoe]

*cheatoe
Vegita_SS
Barb
WW
Lvl 99

[no2fakeshakes]

I think absorb rules should be changed to 2 items with absorb. 1 items with % absorb and the other with + to absorb, i think thats fair.

example:1 Wisp + Black Horns or 1 Wisp + Tgods

NO: 2 Wisps

MAx Resist should be capped at 1 item as well, but if your using absorb you cannot use 2 items of absorb + Max Resists item

Example: Yes(Dwarf + Hotspurs)
NO(Hotspurs + Dwarf + Hell Mouth)

Resist stacking shouldn't be allowed because what if an FOH'r comes, with a 160LR shield it pretty much rules out most damage. If its out then ill put out necro and slap in Mage

i am cool wit those rules, but heres the thing, having 90% resist to any element + 1 absorb greatly diminishes the dmg of the attack

[D1ce]

PvPEast rules are 1 item of absorb/resist gear to each element. That includes +absorb, % absorb, stacked resists, and increased resists. Items with multiples of these only count as 1 to my knowledge [T-Gods is OK]. Otherwise, with Hotspurs alone, a FB Sorc takes 8 hits to kill a 2.7k life Sorc as opposed to 3-4 w/o. Imagine with dwarf O_O This is in NM however.

[Joe_smith]

I think absorb rules should be changed to 2 items with absorb. 1 items with % absorb and the other with + to absorb, i think thats fair.

example:1 Wisp + Black Horns or 1 Wisp + Tgods

NO: 2 Wisps

MAx Resist should be capped at 1 item as well, but if your using absorb you cannot use 2 items of absorb + Max Resists item

Example: Yes(Dwarf + Hotspurs)
NO(Hotspurs + Dwarf + Hell Mouth)

Resist stacking shouldn't be allowed because what if an FOH'r comes, with a 160LR shield it pretty much rules out most damage. If its out then ill put out necro and slap in Mage

with rules like that your bascially forcing ele casters to tele away non stop if they wanna have a chance.

[LordDrift]

those are the rules on page 1 i just added a few to it. unless you guys all agree on 1 item absorb

[Joe_smith]

those are the rules on page 1 i just added a few to it. unless you guys all agree on 1 item absorb

to be honest it's really hard to balance the rules. some match ups require more absorb than others. and some dont' even reqiure 75 res. and the rules are giving necros to huge an advantage.

[LordDrift]

to be honest it's really hard to balance the rules. some match ups require more absorb than others. and some dont' even reqiure 75 res. and the rules are giving necros to huge an advantage.

I agree to that, but necros have a big disadvantage against trappers if no absorb is allowed

[Joe_smith]

I agree to that, but necros have a big disadvantage against trappers if no absorb is allowed

not really in this match up it's the most defensive and least skilled person wins.

[LordDrift]

I beg to differ on that tho, but we will see

[soulesschild]

I beg to differ on that tho, but we will see

on fire sorcs i just use hotspurs and im ok, but with these rules i might just add on a few pieces extra ;), agaisnt trappers, i just use a Lo shield and rely on IBS and teeth because i know if i get caught im screwed, so i guess you have to play defensive agaisnt trappers

if no res stacking is allowed might as well let no-skill fohers just pile in and own everyone :rolleyes: not that im saying that foh takes absoutely NO skill but i find it irritating that it can just auto lock on to you from anywhere...

[LLD-Vampire]

lol OK well since there is 2 element users (fireball and trapper) we only need rules for those 2.

Any ideas?

[Joe_smith]

on fire sorcs i just use hotspurs and im ok, but with these rules i might just add on a few pieces extra ;), agaisnt trappers, i just use a Lo shield and rely on IBS and teeth because i know if i get caught im screwed, so i guess you have to play defensive agaisnt trappers

if no res stacking is allowed might as well let no-skill fohers just pile in and own everyone :rolleyes: not that im saying that foh takes absoutely NO skill but i find it irritating that it can just auto lock on to you from anywhere...

bs and teeth requries even less skills. necros are still the easiest class to play overall espeically defensively. can take on 7 player at once easily with minimal skills required.

[LordDrift]

how about just 1 item of absorb + 1 item of max resist, no Gaurdian Angel or Hot Spurs they give to high in MAx Resists

[soulesschild]

i beg to differ joe, with minimal skill? agaisnt 7 good players you're a dead necro no matter what the class, so do you think zons multi shot and GA are skilless as well? they're pretty much the same thing

[Joe_smith]

i beg to differ joe, with minimal skill? agaisnt 7 good players you're a dead necro no matter what the class, so do you think zons multi shot and GA are skilless as well? they're pretty much the same thing

of course i was exaggerating. although the necro is the most overpowered class there's always room for improvement as players. and yes 7 on1 in pubbies isn't hard for a necro at all. i've been playing on my friend's crappy bone necro in pubbies hostiling everyone in every game and have yet to die agian. (died from a name lock from windy when i was standing still tanking a barb) Just spam bs from 2-3 screens away far from danger and if people run away sneak up on them and spear lock them. pretty much everything will die easily except maybe a summoner i find windies pretty easy to beat w ith just spear lock or if i wanna play newbishly i can just tele away and keep spamming teeth at least won't lose. yes teeth can hit windies with summon stacking.

[soulesschild]

of course i was exaggerating. although the necro is the most overpowered class there's always room for improvement as players. and yes 7 on1 in pubbies isn't hard for a necro at all. i've been playing on my friend's crappy bone necro in pubbies hostiling everyone in every game and have yet to die agian. (died from a name lock from windy when i was standing still tanking a barb) Just spam bs from 2-3 screens away far from danger and if people run away sneak up on them and spear lock them. pretty much everything will die easily except maybe a summoner i find windies pretty easy to beat w ith just spear lock or if i wanna play newbishly i can just tele away and keep spamming teeth at least won't lose. yes teeth can hit windies with summon stacking.

i wouldnt consider staying 2-3 screens away and firing BS and teeth really dueling....

[Joe_smith]

i wouldnt consider staying 2-3 screens away and firing BS and teeth really dueling....

agreed. unfornately, that's how most necros "duel" i did that to collect gold. and i was teleling up to people attacking with spear or forcing them into spirits with teeth over half the time. bascially an unabsorbable and buffer version of fb sorc with teeth. except (10 fps didn't seem to be too slow.)

[dumbpig]

that sort of dueling causes the necro to lose, unless they stay out half an hour and use regen

[LLD-Vampire]

Ok heres the people and who you'll be against I decided not to be in it because it was uneven and XE-Revolutions owned me :). Since no one else wanted to help I guess I'll just have to watch each one. I don't know what the best time to start would be so will the people in it tell me what time would be best for you? (time zone too?) Remeber it's on the 22nd, if your not there then you forfit and your opponent advances of your both not there then your both out :).

Dark-Angel
Necro
Bone Nec
Lvl 91

VS

chinaboxer
necro
bonemancer
lvl 89
__________________________

*cloakshape55
Paladin
hammerdin
lvl 85

VS

Wiz[Darkstar]
Necro
Bone
87
__________________________

king-of-gods
assasin
trap
87

VS

MoTo[Xu]
Necro
Bone
lvl 88
__________________________

*souless-pvp
Soulesschild
Bonemancer
lvl 91

VS

*XE-ReVolution
Melee
WW barb
Lvl 93

__________________________

*boa_agentgold
Druid
Wind
LvL 82

VS

MoFo_Inc
Necromancer
Bone
85
__________________________

*a.s.s.-cream(y) without the dots
assassin
ww
lvl 85

VS

*angry_skool
sorc
fireball
lvl 91
__________________________

*stron
Bone Mancer
Necro
90

VS

boshekinthunder
Druid
Windy style
lvl 90

[no2fakeshakes]

darn i wanted a nec lolz

[soulesschild]

interesting, majority necros, should be a fun and interestin duels :)

[Pure-Demon]

anytime after 12 pm for me
pacific time
*moto[xu]

[LordDrift]

sweet can't wait.

for me its anytime late nite or early afternoon. 11-1pm or 12am-anytime

[Joe_smith]

darn i wanted a nec lolz

i think he wants u eliminated so he wont' have to face u isntead he'll face a melee char.

[LordDrift]

So no 160LR shields, and the original Absorb Rule? 1" % item and 1" + Item?

And a couple of reminders LLD,

boa_agentgold is banned from this site, so i dunno if hes still in
dark-angel said hes out if u ban marrow walks

[Cheatoe]

uhm...i believe i signed up for this tourney, and im not in a match....

[LordDrift]

just pm him im sure he will add along with those sugg and cancelation of people

[LLD-Vampire]

uhm...i believe i signed up for this tourney, and im not in a match....


sorry whats your stuff I'll switch you with dark-angel since he wants to use his marrow glitch. The other guy most likely made another account and still posts and even if he didn't he can still get on and look at this. I'll whisper him on bnet anyway.

[LordDrift]

im gonna be lvl 91 by the end of today

[Cheatoe]

*cheatoe
Vegita_SS
Barb
WW
Lvl 99

This was on the third page, #56 post. thats my info

[Shisho]

sorry whats your stuff I'll switch you with dark-angel since he wants to use his marrow glitch

It's not about wanting to use marrowalks, i would gladly switch it out if it wasnt for the fact that my nec was built around that and taking that out would lower the dmg a lot. To me and to a lot of other people marrowalks is not a glitch but rather feature. Anyways i dont want an argument about that cuz its been argued to death. This is a fair public duel as u called it.. the marrowalks even if u dislike it does not give an unfair advantage. But since i have built my necro around that feature , it will affect my char a lot. In a recent poll most people would prefer dueling against nec with marrowalks than a nec with bone prison. Heres proof on page 3:

View Poll Results: would you rather duel a necro that:
uses teleport ( enigma ) and marrow bug 6 35.29%
OR uses bone prison 11 64.71%

Simply put bone prison lags the crap out of everyone even if they can teleport out.
It seems u allow everything else but something as insignificant as marrowalks, u dont..
If u dont want to include me thats fine, but dont look down on me for using marrows which has been accepted by at least half of the necro community.

[LordDrift]

his tournament his rules

[Buliarios]

Yes I've gotta wear waterwalks now instead of marrowwalks because of the rule, but I'm still gonna stay in the tournament because I see it as more of a fun thing than anything else, because I know I have no chance of winning.

[m_torres10]

Contact me either in the game or at my email m_torres10@yahoo.com

RoT_Unknown
Assassin
Trap
Lvl 90

[Joe_smith]

Yes I've gotta wear waterwalks now instead of marrowwalks because of the rule, but I'm still gonna stay in the tournament because I see it as more of a fun thing than anything else, because I know I have no chance of winning.

that's the spirit the game is all about fun dont' be so negative tho. just a little bit less damage you can still win by out playing the other necs.

[LordDrift]

I think signups are over

[soulesschild]

that's the spirit the game is all about fun dont' be so negative tho. just a little bit less damage you can still win by out playing the other necs.

i love it how battle.net people think that damage is everything in pvp, do less dmg and you = newb, in reality, in pubs, its about teleporting, reflex, and predicting opponents, crap i can take off all my pb charms and still beat the living crap out of most of b.net's pubby necs

it only comes down to damage when both players are about the same skill level, that's when damage becomes a factor

[Buliarios]

Souless you could only be doing 100 dmg per spirit or spear and you would still pwn me :P

[Joe_smith]

Souless you could only be doing 100 dmg per spirit or spear and you would still pwn me :P

just practice with some good players, and stop apple shining and u should be good in no time. d2 is a simple game at least the playing part doens't take very long to get good at if your willing to get some intensive duels. (char buidling, trading,etc can be complicated.)

[Buliarios]

My necro is fully tweaked to what he uses, so thats not a problem. I've just been playing Barbs for along time I just gotta get used to casters tactics.

But I swear I will kill souless one day so watch out souless :lol:

[m_torres10]

No no add at least 1 more tandem so I can get in this tourney

[LLD-Vampire]

It's not about wanting to use marrowalks, i would gladly switch it out if it wasnt for the fact that my nec was built around that and taking that out would lower the dmg a lot. To me and to a lot of other people marrowalks is not a glitch but rather feature. Anyways i dont want an argument about that cuz its been argued to death. This is a fair public duel as u called it.. the marrowalks even if u dislike it does not give an unfair advantage. But since i have built my necro around that feature , it will affect my char a lot. In a recent poll most people would prefer dueling against nec with marrowalks than a nec with bone prison. Heres proof on page 3:

View Poll Results: would you rather duel a necro that:
uses teleport ( enigma ) and marrow bug 6 35.29%
OR uses bone prison 11 64.71%

Simply put bone prison lags the crap out of everyone even if they can teleport out.
It seems u allow everything else but something as insignificant as marrowalks, u dont..
If u dont want to include me thats fine, but dont look down on me for using marrows which has been accepted by at least half of the necro community.

uh but marrows is a glitch... it isn't a feature

[LLD-Vampire]

*cheatoe
Vegita_SS
Barb
WW
Lvl 99

VS

chinaboxer
necro
bonemancer
lvl 89
__________________________

*cloakshape55
Paladin
hammerdin
lvl 85

VS

Wiz[Darkstar]
Necro
Bone
87
__________________________

king-of-gods
assasin
trap
87

VS

MoTo[Xu]
Necro
Bone
lvl 88
__________________________

*souless-pvp
Soulesschild
Bonemancer
lvl 91

VS

*XE-ReVolution
Melee
WW barb
Lvl 93

__________________________

*boa_agentgold
Druid
Wind
LvL 82

VS

MoFo_Inc
Necromancer
Bone
85
__________________________

*a.s.s.-cream(y) without the dots
assassin
ww
lvl 85

VS

*angry_skool
sorc
fireball
lvl 91
__________________________

*stron
Bone Mancer
Necro
90

VS

boshekinthunder
Druid
Windy style
lvl 90

uh sorry for leaving ya out, had to repost since I guess you can't edit after a certain ammount of time, never knew that

[m_torres10]

You need to get another match with only 7 matches someone is going to have a 2nd round bye...

[JEDi-MiNDTRiCKS]

K PM me whenever you want to duel, I'll be on 12-2 in the afternoon, and maybe after midnight, thats the only time I can really get on because of work :cheesy:

[Joe_smith]

My necro is fully tweaked to what he uses, so thats not a problem. I've just been playing Barbs for along time I just gotta get used to casters tactics.

But I swear I will kill souless one day so watch out souless :lol:

in tele nvn sometimes a luck spear lock, a few ibs, or other person lagging can easily get u a win assuming 1 char isn't grossly stronger than the other.so not hard for the less skilled person to win sometimes espeicially if you play defense. defense= huge advantage in most tele caster duels.

[LordDrift]

might brother has to withdrawl from the competition, *king-of-gods, the trapper but i will take his place and withdrawl my necro from the competition *stron

[m_torres10]

Does that mean I get to take someone's place.

[HoTShoT_KiD]

were u talking bout my tourny or that other guys?i canceled mine if u didnt kno

[DarkStar]

I made a new necro my old one was:
Wiz[darkstar]
Necro
Bone
LvL 87

My new one is:
Darkstar[xu]
Necro
Bone
LvL 81 (Still lvling

[Pure-Demon]

im dropping out of the tourney because i stopped playing
Moto[Xu]

[LordDrift]

so he dropped ouyt and i dropped out my necro, adding in my brothers trap assassin, what happened to the organizer of the tournament?

[xlodtraderx]

i dont feel like reading everything...but can someone recap for me? I think good rules would be all of clan honors rules except allowing exile and draculs that can give you % to cast something...no charges and no teleing though. If someone can recap for me, that'll be great. Look at my profile for account names. THnx

[GhostlyDragon]

might brother has to withdrawl from the competition, *king-of-gods, the trapper but i will take his place and withdrawl my necro from the competition *stron
hey guys im back so im in the compitition again and so is my brother *stron so put me bback in plz :winner:

[LordDrift]

is this still on or what?

[no2fakeshakes]

i have a feeling there wont be a tourney lolz

[LordDrift]

come on lld where you at

[ReVolution]

We should just duel each other privately and post the outcome here..I dont have much faith in lld's leadership abilities.

[Cheatoe]

Tourney is today. Chinaboxer, if you read this, ill be on from 12-2 P.M. (Mountain Time). Wisper me at *cheatoe and ill try to wisper you. If this tourey ever really happens...

[DarkStar]

Cloakshape55 /w me darkstar[xu] from 12-2 ill be on.

[LordDrift]

so is there a tourney?

[boshekinthunder]

*stron, Im on bnet if you want to duel. Dont know if LLD is gonna be around to moderate.

*boshekinthunder

[LLD-Vampire]

....sorry my mom got pissed at me for skipping classes and made me go to my dads for the weekend. I can't do it if you guys are still gonna do it shes gonna kill me if she sees me on d2.

[Buliarios]

HAHAHA sucked in LLD, My Dad caused me to lose all my mules O.o, he pulled the computer cable so I missed out on refreshing them >.<

Well it looks like we will have to duel our competitor privately.

Msg the person who you were said to duel and post the outcome here, and we will have to come up with an arrangement so the winners can duel other winners.

[BlckShDwDraGoN]

is it too late to sign up?

if its not too late:
t3h_joobifier
Assassin
WW
88