Dream Poison PvP build

[PvP_n00b]

Hey all. :howdy:

I'm a total newbie to PvP. I have alot of interest in building a poison character for this purpose. I started out thinking of building a Venomancer, but then read a plague zon would be better, and then again read a rabies druid is the best poison killer in the game.

I like all 3 classes, so thats not an issue. I just want to build a poison pvp beast. Plain and simple.

So if you have the time and can help me out, what would your dream build be for each one of these? I have bramble right now, but no other *godly* type gear.

I've got some ideas on a Venomancer, but my head is swimming now after coming across the plague zon and the rabies druid poison potentials.

Anyway, I eagerly await the advise of you strat/poison/pvp Gurus.

Thanks!

p.s. Also would like your opinions on mercs and dream pvp gear for them. :yep:

[Zelc]

I'm a total newbie to PvP. I have alot of interest in building a poison character for this purpose. I started out thinking of building a Venomancer, but then read a plague zon would be better, and then again read a rabies druid is the best poison killer in the game.
A Venomancer generally has the most mana and the fastest cast, meaning it can teleport better than the other two characters. He also has Fire Golem, which is an easy way to kill a poisoned opponent. However, Poison Nova doesn't do that much damage, and Poison Dagger requires AR.

A Plague Javelin/Lightning Bolt Amazon probably gives you the most damage. Additionally, the use of an Amazon allows you to use Guided Arrow and Multishot on the weapon switch to kill the 1 hp opponents. However, Plague Javelin has low range, and aiming it in lag is tough. Additionally, Amazons have awful cast times, so teleporting isn't very viable.

A Rabies Druid has decent damage. Additionally, Rabies can actually kill people in 1 hit. However, Rabies is a melee attack (which I think uses AR), and Rabies Druids won't have that much mana or fast cast for teleporting.

p.s. Also would like your opinions on mercs and dream pvp gear for them. :yep:
Using hirelings in pvp is considered bad manner. Don't use them. Besides, they die often and cost a lot to revive.

[Phyrexial]

Well, first off you really shouldn't be using mercs in duels. Its generally frowned upon.

That aside:
Venomancers generally use Enigma to close the distance quickly then get out just as fast. I haven't seen a successful one that uses Bramble.

Plague zons are almost always hybrids from what I've seen. They switch to LF or Guided to get that last 1 hp. These have an advantage over the Rabies druid due to their range and versatility.

Rabies Druids are kinda weird but can be very effective if you can tank some hits as you close in on your opponent. Alot of people will die after 1 attack, you just need to run away. Even though Rabies can kill by itself unlike either of the other psn builds, most Rabies druids I've seen are also hybrids and generally use Fury or Fireclaws I think. Rabies druids have that neat little trick for teleporting chars that have minions too ;) If a Wind Druid is giving you problems, infect his Grizzly or something and when he teleports next, the infection will carry over to the Druid.

I'd say its a toss up between the zon and druid since Bramble just isn't suited for the necro's style of play.

[Phyrexial]

@Zelc: He doesn't plan on using teleport as far as I can tell since he makes no mention of Enigma. Also, druids cannot teleport while shapeshifted anyway.

Also, make no mistake, the Venomancer has more than enough psn damage to drop most opponents down to 1 health in seconds. Lower Resist helps. Also, if they are willing to use Marrows, they can be a Psn/Bone hybrid and be far more dangerous.

[sbc84]

Even though Rabies can kill by itself unlike either of the other psn builds,

Actually, Poison nova can kill too. Nova has contact damage and damage over time. 10K poison nova will do 10K poison damage on contact and an additional 10K poison damage over 2 seconds.

[PvP_n00b]

Thanks guys. I don't have enigma, so I won't be using it, unless I eventually get it.

I just read a guys guide on a rabies druid (kazamas), he suggests using enigma. But why? He's running around dueling in ww form or wb form. He can't even use it, or so I thought.

The reason I'll be using bramble is the additional poison damage it adds. That will massively increase my poison damage output.

As far as mercs go, everytime someone asks me to duel they use a merc. I don't duel often right now, but I'm going to start soon. If you both say not to use a merc, I guess I'll take your word for it.

[syphon45]

Thanks guys. I don't have enigma, so I won't be using it, unless I eventually get it.

I just read a guys guide on a rabies druid (kazamas), he suggests using enigma. But why? He's running around dueling in ww form or wb form. He can't even use it, or so I thought.

The reason I'll be using bramble is the additional poison damage it adds. That will massively increase my poison damage output.

As far as mercs go, everytime someone asks me to duel they use a merc. I don't duel often right now, but I'm going to start soon. If you both say not to use a merc, I guess I'll take your word for it.
The point of using enigma is the faster r/w, +2 skills, and the massive amount of strength it adds, which allows you to have a lot more vitality.

[warlock_666]

my cousin has built a very strong succesful poison necro using poison nova only.

Im not sure what his gear is but just to get very high psn damage (which he seems to have) im sure he uses bramble and death's web wand. Death's web is without a doubt the best wand for a poison necro with up to +4 to poison nova, and -40-50% enemy poison resitance. That on top of lower resist would be a nasty hit! only down side - a decent death's web is more expensive than enigma :/ i think about 4 runes. Im sure it would be worth it though.

good luck with him

[Oblivio]

Trangs gloves and shield are also a good way to up damage. Then after you get enough d/r (via ber runes) to be comftorable with poison facets are another good choice.

[Necrokiller999]

I love posinmancer First ftom deaths wand is -50 posin restist if its perfect about. then a facet in it add 5 so its a -55, then a shako with facet, -60, trangs gloves -75, Then Lower resist i dont know how it can go so its like -170 then u hit them with 10k posin damage OUCH!

[D34D]

Have you looked at wwsins, best poison using char imho

[Prodigy]

the wwsin isnt completely dependent on poison, she has a lot of other things that make her effective, if you want a pure poison character, go make a javazon, theyre honestly better compared to necros or wolves.

[mepersoner]

Thanks guys. I don't have enigma, so I won't be using it, unless I eventually get it.

I just read a guys guide on a rabies druid (kazamas), he suggests using enigma. But why? He's running around dueling in ww form or wb form. He can't even use it, or so I thought.

The reason I'll be using bramble is the additional poison damage it adds. That will massively increase my poison damage output.

As far as mercs go, everytime someone asks me to duel they use a merc. I don't duel often right now, but I'm going to start soon. If you both say not to use a merc, I guess I'll take your word for it.
Kaz's guide is for rabies/fireclaws druid. I prefer rabies/fury myself (more life), but the reason enigma is used is because it saves strength giving more life, the frw, and +2 skills which is good for both rabies and fireclaws. Bramble doesn't help fireclaws much. ;)

The other advantage rabies has over poison nova, dagger, and javelin is that PLR (poison length reduction) has relatively little effect on it. With the other skills, 75% PLR will reduce your damage by 75%. With Rabies 75% PLR will reduce your damage something like 100 pvp damage every 2500 p v p damage (Check ElectricBlue's guide - it's pretty good as well).

[Prodigy]

pd reduction takes a penalty in nm and hell, so you gotta remember that.