You have GOT to be kidding me.

[Unholy_VI]

I'm making a trapsin on asia 3 tonight just for

kicks cuase i dont have a Magicfinding char there yet. I decided to do act 1 NM at level 33 since there were no good baalruns going. no problem, leveled up to 39 beating ACT1 and got my spiffy might merc (I'm maxing shadow master is why Might)

decide what the heck might as well do a few solo baal runs in normal since its safer exp than NM and you never know when you'll find some good items.

First kill of him he drops a couple of rares and a set ammy. I pick up the ammy thinknig 'lol it would be cool if this is gelic or tancred's since i could use some MF.' I ID it expecting to see like civerbs or something and OMFG....

Tal Rasha's ammy. From Noraml Baal. Are you freaking kidding me? I thought I was seeing things but sure enough its a Tal's ammy level 67. How the heck Baal in Normal managed to drop that is somethnig I don't understand, but I have the ammy as proof. sitting in my level 39 Assassin's stah. :scratch:

[HAMC8112]

It 's all about the ilvl of the item, TR amu has an ilvl that can be dropped from normalbaal, i found 1 myself doing baal in a normalgame waiting for the 5 minutes you need for muling.

[Xey Lover]

My friend found one in norm cows, i found one in nm trav but died a run later. Congrats.

[Unholy_VI]

It 's all about the ilvl of the item, TR amu has an ilvl that can be dropped from normalbaal, i found 1 myself doing baal in a normalgame waiting for the 5 minutes you need for muling.

That's just crazy!

I'm not complaining though. I think I just went from poor on that realm to middle class in one drop :lol:

guess I'll have to go back and look at the drop formula for the 100th time and try to make some sense of it. I would have thought something wearable by a level 67 woul dhave to have a much higher Ilvl but apparantly not! :scratch:

[Zavior]

Norm meph can drop it.

[Khianna]

Congratulations Unholy. Maybe just playing everywhere rather than one realm all the time is paying off for you. Take care man.

[Anidem]

My friend found one in norm cows, i found one in nm trav but died a run later. Congrats.
I had 1 pop out of a chest in norn cows also. But there was a 90 barb clearing for us so it was him that spawned the chest.

[minion]

So far in 1.10 I've found over 50 set amulets, 1 tals so far :rant:

[kurg]

Norm meph can drop it.

I had one of the council guys in mephs area in normal drop one the other day. So it doesn't have to be meph himself.

I was like, wtf? ... with a big smile of course!

[Unholy_VI]

I had one of the council guys in mephs area in normal drop one the other day. So it doesn't have to be meph himself.

I was like, wtf? ... with a big smile of course!

Well when you take into account how many sets there are that have amulets 1 in 50 is probobly about right. I wonder if some of the other sets are too good to spawn in normal. If so then maybe running bosses in normal might be the best way to find Tal's ammy?

Neat that so many easy monsters have a shot to drop it though.

[minion]

the highest set amulet is tals *IIRC* so that would mean everyone monster that can drop tals can drop all others which... in my reasoning would mean there would be no one monster that has a better % chance to drop it than any other monster.

now, some monsters have a higher % chance to drop an amulet which would raise the chancies of a tals... but only because that monster drops more amulets (andariel for example)

[Omikron8]

Tal Rasha's Amulet has an item level of only 26 ! even though its level req is 67. This means that (correct me if i'm wrong) any monster from the normal travincal council onwards can drop it.

Way back when i played hardcore i was rushing a friend through Normal Mephisto and he dropped a set ammy which i assumed to be another cathan's ammy or something. I was surprised myself that it turned out to be Tal's Ammy :)

[sheepe2004]

u can definately find em off the normal monsters in norm chaos sanctury cos i found one there once while rushing someone

[baalos]

We had a member on west get a tals off normal meph. WHoops, no green, better go to bed. :drink:

[jsiv]

What matters when talking set amulets is the qlvl. As Omikron said, the qlvl of Tal's set is only 26 for some reason so any monster level 26 or above will drop it. This is because rings and amulets don't have qlvls of their own, so only the qlvl of the set matters.

Actually the Disciple amulet - Telling of Beads - is rarer than Tal's, cause the qlvl of the Disciple set is 39 and it has a rarity of 1 like Tal's and Arcanna's (compared to a rarity of 7 for the other set amulets). So yeah, if you're hunting for Tal's amulet, monsters that are level 26 are the ones to kill. Already at level 27 Tancred's comes into play, thus decreasing the odds of finding Tal's.

'Funny' thing is this: When running hell meph for instance (as I did a LOT), the odds of finding Arcanna's amulet is equal to those of finding Tal's. For some reason Arcanna's has the lower rarity even though it is quite the sucky amulet. So every time Arcanna's would drop I'd curse it to hell for not being a Tal's.

[JDM.]

Ive found 3 Tals so far. Council in Trav, Hell Meph, and Unique on my way to Nm andy.

Congrats on the great find

[Unholy_VI]

Ive found 3 Tals so far. Council in Trav, Hell Meph, and Unique on my way to Nm andy.

Congrats on the great find

thanks. I'm thinknig right now becuase of the fact that im not well established I'm going to try and trade it for runes. I'll have to look in the trade forums and see what a Tal's is going for. Not like I'm going to ever get a sorc to level 67 in one piece. :lol:

EDIT: According to the trade forums its something like 1 SoJ or a Gul. Wow. Think I'll try to trade it for 8 or so Ums so I can equip all my mercs with duress armor and CM weapons. Gogo static and CB.

[Unholy_VI]

EDIT: According to the trade forums its something like 1 SoJ or a Gul. Wow. Think I'll try to trade it for 8 or so Ums so I can equip all my mercs with duress armor and CM weapons. Gogo static and CB.

People over there think its hillarious when i suggest it is worth a Gul. It has me wondering whether there was duipg of runes there that happened here and if so how extensive it was. Also considering how easy it is to get rushed you'd think everyone would have good runes from nm and hell forge.

Anyone who has experience on asia3 I'd love to hear your thoguhts on this. Maybe I'm asking too much for the Tal Rasha Ammy given the economy?
:scratch:

[baalos]

In the HC Trade forum, the 'guide" suggests ist+mal+pul = ammy. That is west, btw.

[Unholy_VI]

Yeah highest i was offered was an ist. i'll prolly end up asking either an ist + um or 4 ums. I really dont have a use for an ist but the ums would make an immediate impact.

[Gyro]

Yeah highest i was offered was an ist. i'll prolly end up asking either an ist + um or 4 ums. I really dont have a use for an ist but the ums would make an immediate impact.

They're going for mal to 2 um on SC Ladder USWEST. I'd be surprised if you can get more than ist on other realms.

[doubleOObubble]

"I had 1 pop out of a chest in norn cows also. But there was a 90 barb clearing for us so it was him that spawned the chest."

I'm pretty, though not 100% sure, that that has nothing to do with it. The chests drop class is solely determined by the area it's found in.

[Unholy_VI]

They're going for mal to 2 um on SC Ladder USWEST. I'd be surprised if you can get more than ist on other realms.

Dude.

On SC ladder anyone who wants a spify Tal's set sorc for MFing has to make it exactly 1 time. They will need exactly 1 Tal's ammy for their entire SC carreer. :lol:

Do you see how this makes the SC trade value of such an item irrelevant in hardcore where people's spiffy Tal's Sorcs die every day? :rant:

I believe the west HC ladder guy's estimate more (Ist+Mal+Pul) and keep in mind that IIRC the rune values on East/West/Euro HC ladder are somewhat deflated as there are still dupes running around. I may be wrong on this but I seem to recall people being pretty sure that the last purge didnt get all of them.