worst most unsafe untwinked Ladder char

[Unholy_VI]

Hi. There are two threads about

whats the best char to start out with on the first page and a hardcore FAQ that also gives some advice on it.

but no one is talking about what the worst char to start out with is. I mean after all these hardcore nooblars are going to die anyhow so why delay the inevitable by telling them a good build?

Here are a few I thought of maybe you can add some to the list:

paladin with base life. put all skill points to charge and might and all stat points into str and energy (after all charge takes mana!)

Grimward barb. Put all points into grim ward and a few into find potion. stats, half into energy (need to be able to make those grim wards) the rest into str and life.

psychic hammersin max psychic hammer you'll need a lot of energy of course to hammer everyone!

:drink:

[viamede]

Obviously any character I am playing :D ....

In general any lowlife build....(no not TPPKers the other low-lifes).....


Ok MORE seriously (is this serious?)....Titansorc, Mojomancer etc.

[Zavior]

All str naked charger

[Matt]

even better.. all ENERGY naked charger. Or, all energy, max Bow skills, naked amazon (in other words, no skills, no gear all energy amazon)

[MiTEG]

Warcry barbs are pretty bad without +skills, fastcast, and +mana, and there's the whole issue of not having any damaging skills until level 30.

Melee sorcs are pretty bad untwinked too.

[cade88]

how about a sorc with maxed ice bolt, fire bolt, and charged bolt no masterys i think she would be great untill the middle of act 2 then she would die. Oh and all points go into str and dex so she can melee when needed none in life.

[viamede]

A friend once suggested a Barb who only throws potions (would double throw work????). Perhaps a mojomancer who throws potions and uses lower resists. Might be fun for bit and not outright suicidal

[CoonerTheRed]

ok, the thing is, some of these are just plain stupid builds. I mean, sure, if I put everything into energy, i'd end up with a decent size mana pool and no life and i'd die. But how about builds that, even extremely well built, would have trouble living. Builds that are built around an idea, but will almost definitely die. Titansorc is a good example... there's nothing wrong with the idea of putting all your points in str for the higher damage... there are even barbs who take full advantage of this. But let's face it... she's gonna die.

Here's my vote- the ninjasin. Uses martial arts skills and a two handed sword to beat on the monsters as fast as possible. No shield, no life, no fade (need bos)... doable, but trouble.

[Lostprophet]

Wind druids are hard as hell to get started, especially if you're a pure Windy. Your skill support is essentially nil, and Druids aren't especially good meleers when un-morphed.

War Cry barbs are similarly difficult, but have an easier time Meleeing with Shout, War Cry, and BO, plus faster attack speed and such.

(Pure) Bone Necros too suck at lower lvls (being forced to resort to Teeth and all).

Finally, I have never succesfully solo'ed a Bowazon past Act 2 Normal. Stupid ****-***** Duriel.

[Unholy_VI]

ok, the thing is, some of these are just plain stupid builds. I mean, sure, if I put everything into energy, i'd end up with a decent size mana pool and no life and i'd die. But how about builds that, even extremely well built, would have trouble living. Builds that are built around an idea, but will almost definitely die. Titansorc is a good example... there's nothing wrong with the idea of putting all your points in str for the higher damage... there are even barbs who take full advantage of this. But let's face it... she's gonna die.

Here's my vote- the ninjasin. Uses martial arts skills and a two handed sword to beat on the monsters as fast as possible. No shield, no life, no fade (need bos)... doable, but trouble.


Titan sorc = as dumb as any of these other suggestions. Why people from the sorc forum think its cool is something I'll never get.

BTW an icebolt sorc isnt too bad as a startig char. My kids wanted to play diablo 2 and insisted on the sorc (they are girlie girls) named barbie. I helped them make one that uses icebolt and they love it. the damage gets fairly high after a while and the mana cost is always 3. they die a lot for sure but its not the poor sorcs fault. :lol:

[Winona]

Might Sacadin isnt the best way to stay alive either, max ias of course.

[kurg]

Those builds listed above are rather beside the point. I think to qualify as 'most unsafe', one has to build the character to the best ability possible .... but even after that the build has to be unsafe.

In other words, base vit builds are out. Any character can be built to be suicidal - no dex, no life, no sheild, and melee will accomplish that.




I built a character that I really really tried to make viable. But hes rather stuck at lvl 70-ish in act1 hell. He's unsafe, and I've even twinked him!

He's a conversion + thorns pally. I have a little bit of str (probably 70 or so), enough dex for max block (120 or so), and the rest into Vit. I've maxed thorns (duh!) and lvl 12 or so conversion. I've put most of my best pally equipment on him, and he pretty much still gets his arse kicked in act1 hell. I even battle ordered him the other day (lvl 34 BO) and he STILL almost dies in boss packs in act1 hell --- and he can't kill anything very quickly in hell either, although he was doing ok in 2-4 player games in NM act5.

So my vote for most unsafe untwinked char is a conversion/thorns pally. I will admit he does great until the end of NM. But hell just ownz him.

My second vote would be a fendazon. Even built really really well, a fendazon will basically not be able to play hell, imo (although I haven't tried since classic).

[5zigen]

i second the fendazon. MA assassins are also hard if they dont use fade, esp claw / claw assns (untwinked means no jt either).

[Joel9-Co]

Of all the popular build, the worst untwinked character is a WW barb... Since they are pretty much the most expensive to gear up. Playing a WW barb in search of a decent weapon can be a real struggle... Until you reach higher lvl and can buy a cruel weapon fairly easily, it's quite hard to actually find what you need on the ground... and as long as you don't actually have a decent weapon, it isn't like you can really MF efficiently with him.

Not to mention finding the items to make him viable (you need stuff like +AR items, good blocking shield (depending), cannot be frozen somewhere, good resists and damage reduced if you want to tank. Else said, you need some of the best gear as I said before to make him efficient.

[amishamigo]

Of all the popular build, the worst untwinked character is a WW barb... Since they are pretty much the most expensive to gear up. Playing a WW barb in search of a decent weapon can be a real struggle... Until you reach higher lvl and can buy a cruel weapon fairly easily, it's quite hard to actually find what you need on the ground... and as long as you don't actually have a decent weapon, it isn't like you can really MF efficiently with him.

Not to mention finding the items to make him viable (you need stuff like +AR items, good blocking shield (depending), cannot be frozen somewhere, good resists and damage reduced if you want to tank. Else said, you need some of the best gear as I said before to make him efficient.

I second that! I had an 09 untwinked WW barb. He was stuck at level 40-ish in nightmare until I found a godly rare sword (100 ed, 40 ias, rather good life leech, some sort of resists, I think 40 lightning and like 30 fire, and some other mod).

When 1.10 first came out, the second character I played was that barb (The first was a skeleton necro. I wanted to cry when I saw my 120 skeletons reduced to a mere thirty!) and I whirlwinded till he was blue in the face and did nothing.