I have a summon mancer question.

[Heaven Torn Asunder]

On the guide it says put points into dex till block is 75..

but I figured in hardcore I'd have to put more points into life and such, other than worrying about the block, and since I'm not putting points into dex, I figured I'd max out bone armor instead. So here's how I figured my stats/skills would be.

20 skeleton mastery
20 skeleton
20 bone armor
1 amplify damage (and maybe one into life tap, and decripify)

Str - enough to use my highest piece of armor (which'll probably be dush shroud)
Dex - Base
Life - all points into here except for str
Enr - Base

And my gear is probably gonna be dusk shroud, undead crown, raven frost, a pretty nice rare ring, homoculous (Diamond'd), Black Hand Key (unless I find arm of king leoric anytime soon), Up'd Goldwrap (or regular), sander's gloves, and sander's boots.

I decided to make another summoner, I have had two previous ones but they both have been TPPK'D, but now I'm wise enough on how to avoid that stuff. And I'm using this equipment because in a baal run yesterday, a necromancer allowed me to loot his corpse. Then 5 seconds later, I see SoulofBruno's was slain by black soul. And I'm like wha?? what?? And then when we went down there, there was a two black soul unique bosses, and a lot of minions. So then once they were cleared out. I got the corpse. Offered to give it back to him, but he left right after I got the stuff. But I was happy with the stuff on his corpse. Better than most of the stuff I have on my other HxC characters (just started playing a few weeks ago).

So what do you guys suggest I do with this build to make it as effective as possible through hell and everything?

Thanks for the inputs.

[Unholy_VI]

On the guide it says put points into dex till block is 75..

but I figured in hardcore I'd have to put more points into life and such, other than worrying about the block, and since I'm not putting points into dex, I figured I'd max out bone armor instead. So here's how I figured my stats/skills would be.

20 skeleton mastery
20 skeleton
20 bone armor
1 amplify damage (and maybe one into life tap, and decripify)

Str - enough to use my highest piece of armor (which'll probably be dush shroud)
Dex - Base
Life - all points into here except for str
Enr - Base

And my gear is probably gonna be dusk shroud, undead crown, raven frost, a pretty nice rare ring, homoculous (Diamond'd), Black Hand Key (unless I find arm of king leoric anytime soon), Up'd Goldwrap (or regular), sander's gloves, and sander's boots.

I decided to make another summoner, I have had two previous ones but they both have been TPPK'D, but now I'm wise enough on how to avoid that stuff. And I'm using this equipment because in a baal run yesterday, a necromancer allowed me to loot his corpse. Then 5 seconds later, I see SoulofBruno's was slain by black soul. And I'm like wha?? what?? And then when we went down there, there was a two black soul unique bosses, and a lot of minions. So then once they were cleared out. I got the corpse. Offered to give it back to him, but he left right after I got the stuff. But I was happy with the stuff on his corpse. Better than most of the stuff I have on my other HxC characters (just started playing a few weeks ago).

So what do you guys suggest I do with this build to make it as effective as possible through hell and everything?

Thanks for the inputs.

maxing bone armor isnt considered good for 2 reasons.

1) you just get more absorb per point by putting points into its synergies bone wall and bone prison.

2) + to skills gear will add some damage by increasing the bone wall level but it won't add to the absorb you get from the synergies.

Also keep in mind that you can use the marrow walk boots bug/feature that gives a high level bonewall synergy as long as you didnt assign any points to bonewall already.

[STINGER]

Put those 20 in Bone Wall

If you have no other idead for the rest then go Spear and take double advantage of the points in Wall as it also pumps up spear. this also gives you personally a way to get a corpse, not forcing you to relay on minions, or can help them get one quicker. There are places and monsters that can chew your skellies up quickly if you cant help them. They arent your "normal spawns" it usually has somehting to do with a double boss pack situation like Fanta Archers cursing and some Might pack is also there, or convic/LE or somehtig liekthat, but in Hell this is not uncommon it is actually rather frequent. Especially in the Pit!!!

[PhatTrumpet]

Blocking on Summoners is really a matter of opinion. I say if you have a decent shield (i.e. Homonculus) and maxed resists in hell, go ahead and get as much blocking as you possibly can (50-75% is a popular range). Otherwise, just focus on getting your resists and life up.


20 Skeleton Mastery
20 Raise Skeleton
1 Clay Golem
1 Golem Mastery
1 Summon Resist
1-10 Corpse Explode depends a lot on your playing style, 1 point's enough for me
20 Bone Wall
0 Bone Prison <---- very important
1 Amplify Damage
1 Decrepify <---- a must-have skill, no question

Later on, if you get your hands on a pair of Marrowwalks, start maxing Bone Spear.

[Aerath]

Also keep in mind that you can use the marrow walk boots bug/feature that gives a high level bonewall synergy as long as you didnt assign any points to bonewall already.

Prison, not wall ;)

[stemis516]

heres exactly what i want u to do

max mastery and skeleton
1 into all curses
1 in bone armor
0 into bone prision
max bone wall (after mastery/skele)
max bone spear(after bone wall)
1 in clay golem/golem mastery/summon resist
1 into prereqs

wear marrowalks

this should bring you up into the mid to high 80's with all quests...after this if u choose to lvl more put the rest of the points into corpse explosion

[DarkDexter]

Here is my build and it seems to work fine
20 Raise Skeleton
20 Raise Mage
20 Skeleton Mastery
4 Amp Dmg
10 Golem Mastery
5 Summon Resist
1 Every Golem Type (For flexability mostly iron golem)
1 To every other curse
1 to Revive
20 Corpse Explosion
1 Bone Armor
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Str: Max to wear heaviest item (i go for 110 w/o items, a little high but i like it)
Dex: 222 (enought to get 75% Block on homouclus)
Life: Everything else
Energy: 70 (Enought to raise army, more than enought for curses and explosion)

Use the marrowalk bug for bone armor instead of wasting stat points.
(I might have messed up on the skill points slightly, but u can get the general picture)
If u get Beast on you and Bramble and Doom on a might merc u can solo hell amazingly fast.

[Heaven Torn Asunder]

Ok, thanks guys.

I think I'll put 3 into dex and 2 into vit every level. Besides the ones I have to put into str. But once I get around 222 dex, the rest will go into vit.

And I think I'll go with Stemis's build. Although it might take me a long while to get to till I'm done maxing all them. >.<

Now all I need is to get my hands on a pair of marrow walks.

[Aerath]

Now all I need is to get my hands on a pair of marrow walks.

I assume they can be yours for a couple PGems. I don't know the price for HC, but see most them on SC/L/Eu go for 9 or 12, iirc. (Got mine for 5 :clap: )