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Gremlin
02-06-2004, 00:17
Just wondering what you guys think about the occy and the 25% ctc teleport. I think about using it but..... Dunno if its 2 risky.... What do you think?

rachil0
02-06-2004, 00:22
I loathe it. It gets you into a lot more sticky situations than it saves you from. Maybe if you're just mfing it'd be ok since you'll spend most of your time in tele-transit already, and you're not blocking or getting hit.

MiTEG
02-06-2004, 00:27
If you use it long enough, it will kill you.

The question is, do the benefits of using occulus over wizardspike outweigh the risks?

Halas
02-06-2004, 00:30
Just had a quick thought: If it's 25% chance to teleport upon being struck, does that include blocking? I'm assuming that regardless if the attack hits or its blocked, you have a 1:4 chance of being teleported. Thanks for the reply!

-Halas

kurg
02-06-2004, 00:34
What do you think about the 25% chance to cast teleport when struck?

If I ever find one I'll let you know.

D2 is finicky about giving me items that everyone else seems to find like leaves on trees.

rachil0
02-06-2004, 00:40
Just had a quick thought: If it's 25% chance to teleport upon being struck, does that include blocking? I'm assuming that regardless if the attack hits or its blocked, you have a 1:4 chance of being teleported. Thanks for the reply!

-Halas

I am not sure. Reading the mod it seems like it would only be when a hit penetrated your block, but I had blocksorcs that wore them and still got knocked around like pinballs.

Maybe when the first teleport happened I would lose my cool and start running instead of walking, loosing blocking rate and thus inviting further strikes. Not sure. Tried it a ways back, hated it, never looked back.

Winona
02-06-2004, 00:55
It only rolls for teleport if hit. Im using it on my meph sorc. She is tanking him in order to keep my merc alive (yeah i know it should be the other way around).

its very scarce that i get teleported away from the safety of his grasp as i have 75% block (yes i know, it should be the otherway around here aswell).

Occy is very good for tele to meph, but its horrible othervise.

Corndog
02-06-2004, 01:18
This is a discussion that has been rattled around here a few times.

I use it and do not find it that annoying. Only Souls and the red ball shooting sirens are any problem really.

I have used it on both my mf sorcs with great success. The old one died to a bad teleport (not from the occy, actually it might have saved me had it employed here) in Hell Chaos Sanctuary at level 93. My new one is level 92. So the theory you will die eventually if you use it is crap.

fgh24
02-06-2004, 02:25
I wont use it again. I was teleing through wk3 and got hit, knocked into souls/dolls, after that I wont touch unless i use it on switch.

DarkDexter
02-06-2004, 04:12
On SC= This is a life saver
On HC= The chance to land in a unwanted pack is too high

The only way i would use it on HC is if i had max block and a good energy sheild. That way if u get teleported somewhere crappy u cna survive long enought ot get teleported somewhere better. However, u could get unlucky alot and wind up in a whole bunch of eneimies on every teleport. Overall don't use it unless u think u can survive a few hits if things go wrong. However, if this were SC, i would say all the way.

BTW it is a great switch on HC for MF. Just switch to it before the boss dies and u get a nice MF bonus. If u socket it with a Ist this could be evne nicer. If you don't have a Ist u could always go with gull dagger for switch (for MF anyways...)

Cleglaw_Himself
02-06-2004, 04:27
If I ever find one I'll let you know.

D2 is finicky about giving me items that everyone else seems to find like leaves on trees.
Me also.

Whenever I find a swirling crystal, its always green.
I have way too many Tal Rasha's Lidless Eyes now.
But, I would not use the Occy anyway due to the 25% thing - on HC, I don't like those chances of things beyond my control. I'd trade it.
I use gull dagger for mf%.

STINGER
02-06-2004, 15:28
Personally I would use it if I didnt have a Wizzy, but the Wizzy makes a sorc build scream!

I didnt like the occy on Meph runs as his little lighning attack with the little bolts would teleport me alot. It is also a big hassle around flayers, souls, archers, ..etc. Anything ITD attacking is a real pain.

jsiv
02-06-2004, 17:03
Personally I would use it if I didnt have a Wizzy, but the Wizzy makes a sorc build scream!

I didnt like the occy on Meph runs as his little lighning attack with the little bolts would teleport me alot. It is also a big hassle around flayers, souls, archers, ..etc. Anything ITD attacking is a real pain.
Meph's charged bolt attack triggers the teleport? I'm not sure, but if it does it's never been a problem to me on my countless meph runs. As Winona, I tank meph to keep my merc alive, and I rarely tele (also use 75% block, wouldn't wanna be without it. EVER).

As Corndog said, saying that an occy will get you killed eventually is pure bull. Just learn what your sorc can and cannot do. There's no place in the game where a teleport into some monster pack would kill me instantly before I could tele right away again. Except a might/fana/amp/[insert favorite psycho aura here] pack of some sort, but then I don't kill bastards like this from up close.

Elu's Might
02-06-2004, 18:18
I always use Occy on my sorc, lvl 88. She has lived for about 3 months now through countless Hell Meph and Countess runs, and never betrayed me with that 25 % to cast Teleport. In the beginning I found a Shako and traded it to an Ist... -> Oculus 'ist'. A couple times Occy has even saved me, once got Amp from a stygian in Durance 2 and my merc killed another Stygian next to me. Had about 60 life remaining and Ocu threw me over a wall. Whew!

Rueter_Reborn
02-06-2004, 21:06
Are you rich? Play a lot?

If the answers to the above questions are YES..then you can afford to die, or have a better chance of dieing than without the 25% ctws. Ultimately I love occy only have that one bad mod. If you play hell alot and solo or you find your self getting bashed all the time maybe try for a wizzy or fathom. Play with it if it scares you stop using it. Just go into nightmare and try it out.