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sae1969
30-11-2004, 18:49
I am new to trading and I hope I can ask a quesiton or two about possible values for items I want and item I have.

Items I want:
what does it take to get:
a IK Aldur's or Tal Rasha armors?
shimmering charms (all resistance)
mara's
Arreats face
natalya's mark
mf sc

Items I have and want potential values:
skulders
IK and tals rasha set itmes (except armors)
perfect war travelers (50% MF)
rainbow facets
skill charms
shimmering charms (all resistance)
lighsabre
azurewrath
Djinn slayer
gladiator's bane (i have 3)
Buriza
Nord's Tenderizer
HOZ (ethereal and nonethereal)
Homonculus
Kira's guardian (ethereal and non)
Stormshield
Gheeds (I have 11 or more) jeez...
SOJ

Anyway, what a long list! You can answer or ignore this post as you like. I suppose I am still feeling my way around this trading business and having fun. I wonder what the single most valuableitem that has been traded on this board?

Shawn

OmanLord
30-11-2004, 19:14
There is no currency or really item values on these frorums, as it says in the rules thread if you read it, values really depend on how bad the traders want it. now that thats out there,
i have tals armor for you soj if that is cool, drop me a PM

maxgerin
30-11-2004, 19:26
I have these...

Shimmering Grand Charm
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 27
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 83
Fingerprint: 0x63c9038c
All Resistances +15
----> like having 3x +5resist all SCs. :)

Mara's Kaleidoscope
Amulet
Required Level: 67
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 93
Fingerprint: 0xa9d7213b
+5 to Strength
+5 to Energy
+5 to Dexterity
+5 to Vitality
All Resistances +23
+2 to All Skill Levels

I'm interested in your Azurewrath (is this the Phase Blade?) and Rainbow Facets. If you are interested, please post ATMA stats here. Thanks!

--maxgerin

2xcess
30-11-2004, 20:08
Hello Blank Grail PDF guy here:

I would love to get those war travelers. Could a shimmering charm and MF charms do the trick?

Shimmering Grand Charm
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 27
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 90
Fingerprint: 0xc0cffd63
All Resistances +14

Small Charm of Good Luck
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 33
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0xe098a8fe
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 33
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0xe098a8fe
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

2xcess@excite.com

necrolemming
30-11-2004, 21:15
Tal's Armor for the Wartravs or maybe facets?

Arem
30-11-2004, 22:19
I'm intersted in the Stone of Jordon. I can give you these:

Shimmering Grand Charm of Greed
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 27
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 75
Fingerprint: 0xfbfde3e9
All Resistances +13
14% Extra Gold from Monsters

Lizard's Small Charm of Good Luck
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 33
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x31e1eb3d
+2 to Mana
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Shimmering Small Charm of Sustenance
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 25
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 83
Fingerprint: 0xdcf478c6
+13 to Life
All Resistances +4

Smoldering Small Charm of Good Luck
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 33
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 84
Fingerprint: 0x7ab40b1a
Adds 2-4 fire damage
6% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

flying_dug0ng
30-11-2004, 22:57
Small Charm of Good Luck
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 33
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0xe098a8fe
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Good Luck
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 33
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0xe098a8fe
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items


You pasted the same charm again, bud ;)

NSXdreamer
30-11-2004, 23:26
As others said, there is no absolute value. But as a general rule to follow, item of the same TC (treasure class) or rarety are about the same. Download ATMA if you haven't already, there is a build in drop calculator that will tell you the drop chance of each item, that'll give you an idea of relative rarety of items.

But of course there are some exceptions, such items like soj, death's web, mara's (good resist ones), and to a lesser degree hoz, arreat's face, that everyone and their brother wants a couple, so their relative value goes up. (especially true for soj)

Vajar
30-11-2004, 23:51
I've got an IK Armor and an 15 all resist grand charm. I might be interested in your facets, can you post the stats on them please?

2xcess
01-12-2004, 00:45
You pasted the same charm again, bud ;)

Opps.

And the real charm is...

Small Charm of Good Luck
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 33
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 73
Fingerprint: 0xa63e3f56
7% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Thanx for pointing out my mouse-o. :thumbsup:

sae1969
01-12-2004, 01:14
I've got an IK Armor and an 15 all resist grand charm. I might be interested in your facets, can you post the stats on them please?

Here are the 3 facets that I have in my grail. Waht would be a fair return for them? Waddaya think?

Shawn

2: Rainbow Facet
Jewel
Required Level: 49
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x4fbca202
Adds 17-45 fire damage
100% Chance to cast Level 29 Blaze When You Level Up
+5% to Fire Skill Damage
-3% to Enemy Fire Resistance

3: Rainbow Facet
Jewel
Required Level: 49
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x69de3fd5
+36 poison damage over 2 seconds
100% Chance to cast Level 51 Poison Nova When You Die
+4% to Poison Skill Damage
-5% to Enemy Poison Resistance

4: Rainbow Facet
Jewel
Required Level: 49
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0xc98b7e77
Adds 17-45 fire damage
100% Chance to cast Level 31 Meteor When You Die
+4% to Fire Skill Damage
-4% to Enemy Fire Resistance

sae1969
01-12-2004, 01:19
Tal's Armor for the Wartravs or maybe facets?

I would be willing to trade my oerfect war travs for the tals armor. Could you send me the stats for the armor?

Here are my travs:

1: War Traveler
Battle Boots
Defense: 138
Durability: 48 of 48
Kick Damage: 37 to 64
Required Strength: 95
Required Level: 42
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 81
Fingerprint: 0x61a7a993
+10 to Strength
+10 to Vitality
+188% Enhanced Defense
+15 to Minimum Damage
+25 to Maximum Damage
+30 Maximum Durability
Attacker Takes Damage of 7
50% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
25% Faster Run/Walk
40% Slower Stamina Drain

Vajar
01-12-2004, 01:47
unfortunately the only facet that fits what I'm looking for atm, is the 5/3 fire, a Shimmering GC would be a fair trade - if that sounds good to you

IK Armor would probably go for about 2-5 facets of the type that I'm looking for (depends on which ones)

these are my prices, what I see value in them, which I think are pretty fair

sae1969
01-12-2004, 01:59
[QUOTE=Vajar]unfortunately the only facet that fits what I'm looking for atm, is the 5/3 fire, a Shimmering GC would be a fair trade - if that sounds good to you

I like the shimmering charm but I have a couple already so I am fine. I am just being greedy:) What other things do you need for the IK SC? I have other stuff in my stache that I could offer. Otherwise, maybe we will have better luck next time.

Vajar
01-12-2004, 02:06
np (no problem), my trade thread is about the middle of the page - unfortunately I'm not looking for much so it'll probably be next time, but who knows.. ya just might have somethin!

necrolemming
01-12-2004, 03:01
I would be willing to trade my oerfect war travs for the tals armor. Could you send me the stats for the armor?

Here are my travs:

1: War Traveler
Battle Boots
Defense: 138
Durability: 48 of 48
Kick Damage: 37 to 64
Required Strength: 95
Required Level: 42
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 81
Fingerprint: 0x61a7a993
+10 to Strength
+10 to Vitality
+188% Enhanced Defense
+15 to Minimum Damage
+25 to Maximum Damage
+30 Maximum Durability
Attacker Takes Damage of 7
50% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
25% Faster Run/Walk
40% Slower Stamina Drain
Tal Rasha's Guardianship
Lacquered Plate
Defense: 933
Durability: 31 of 55
Required Strength: 83
Required Level: 71
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 88
Fingerprint: 0x860ec625
+400 Defense
Magic Damage Reduced by 15
Fire Resist +40%
Lightning Resist +40%
Cold Resist +40%
88% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Requirements -60%

***Partial Set Item Bonuses***
10% Faster Cast Rate
***Partial Set Item Bonuses***

Look good? If so, send the mule to necrolemming@yahoo.com .

sae1969
01-12-2004, 03:06
Look good? If so, send the mule to necrolemming@yahoo.com

You should be getting the mule real soon:)

sae1969@yahoo.com

necrolemming
01-12-2004, 04:14
Look good? If so, send the mule to necrolemming@yahoo.com

You should be getting the mule real soon:)

sae1969@yahoo.com
Mule sent.

2xcess
01-12-2004, 04:33
Sniff... Bye Perfect War Travelers. :hanky:

Are you interested in the three charms? I'm interested in a grail item like the HOZ.

sae1969
01-12-2004, 04:42
Sorry about the war travelers. I have wanted Tals armor for ages and ages To get it so easily was a dream come too:) I am iterested in the charms (who wouldn't?) The problem is that I am still feeling my way arounf trading stuff. I wanted to ascertain the values of some of my stuff-not necessarily trade them now. I would likely be willing to trade my eth HOZ, but not the regular one. I like my paladin, too much. first character to use Azurewrath for me. Are there other things that interest you? I have lots more stuff in my stash...

2xcess
01-12-2004, 05:07
The only items in you list that I don't have are the HOZ and the azurewrath. (I haven't done a Paladin yet.)

I'll check in on you later. Enjoy the grail.pdf

Randall
01-12-2004, 05:41
azurewrath

Is that a 1.10 Azurewrath ?

I would be interested in it, it seems that you received some of the things you where looking for. What is your current ISO ?

Randall

MCCCXXXVII
01-12-2004, 07:06
I've got aldur's armour here:
Aldur's Deception
Shadow Plate
Defense: 762
Durability: 47 of 70
Required Strength: 115
Required Level: 76
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 94
Fingerprint: 0x5876345
+20 to Strength
+15 to Dexterity
+300 Defense
Lightning Resist +47%
Requirements -50%
+1 to Shape-Shifting Skills (Druid Only)
+1 to Elemental Skills (Druid Only)

***Partial Set Item Bonuses***
+15 to Vitality
+15 to Vitality
+15 to Vitality
***Partial Set Item Bonuses***

I'll trade it for the SoJ, or for any cold soceress skillers you have (if you have any...)

alexanderhenry@gmail.com

salvo
01-12-2004, 08:35
i can offer you an arreats face and 2x mf sc and everything else i have in my trade list for the SoJ or Azurewrath (are they 1.10)

2xcess
01-12-2004, 13:00
The only items in you list that I don't have are the HOZ and the azurewrath. (I haven't done a Paladin yet.)

I'll check in on you later. Enjoy the grail.pdf

Ok, I slept on it. If the offer is still there, I trade my three items for the eth HOZ (1.10 isn't it)

2xcess@excite.com

sae1969
01-12-2004, 15:34
I will be gone this week for a wedding. When I get back this weekend, I will pick up this thread and post my ISO and wanted items.

Shawn

Randall
01-12-2004, 16:32
Have a nice time at the wedding

Randall

2xcess
21-12-2004, 00:37
I noticed in another thread your FARA report

I have
Ondal's Almighty

and I'm interested in your
Blinkbat's Form


I'm also interested in the Bane Ash if you haven't already traded it.

Grimfeng
22-12-2004, 18:06
I noticed in another thread your FARA report
I'm also interested in the Bane Ash if you haven't already traded it.

Back off man! j/k I also saw his report in the other thread and attempted to hijack it here. (http://www.rpgforums.net/showpost.php?p=3025790&postcount=12) Perhaps a frontal assault is the better way to go, though sae seems to be ignoring his own thread.

sae1969
22-12-2004, 23:19
I finally updated my ISO to reflect the results of some serious Baal runs and some recent trades. Without further ado:

ISO
Mara's Kaleidoscope | Highlord's Wrath | Crescent Moon | Saracen's Chance |
BK' Wedding Band | Wisp Projector | Firelizard's Talons | Natalya's Mark

shimmering and mf small charms are always welcome:)

My grail is at this link http://www.freewebs.com/sae1969/index.htm. This list also shows what I am missing. If I have more then one listed for the item - it should be available for trade. I also have a few skillers left since I never use them.

Thanks

Shawn

maxgerin
22-12-2004, 23:55
Do you still have a spare Bane Ash?
If you are willing to trade that for a Hotspur, Rixot's Keen and Nat's Mark, just post the ATMA stats. :)

Hotspur
Boots
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 75
Fingerprint: 0x1c1d26ad
+11% Enhanced Defense

Rixot's Keen
Short Sword
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 4
Fingerprint: 0xdaadb59d

Natalya's Mark
Scissors Suwayyah
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0x40c8295c

--maxgerin

Grimfeng
23-12-2004, 01:10
I finally updated my ISO to reflect the results of some serious Baal runs and some recent trades. Without further ado:

ISO
Mara's Kaleidoscope | Highlord's Wrath | Crescent Moon | Saracen's Chance |
BK' Wedding Band | Wisp Projector | Firelizard's Talons | Natalya's Mark

shimmering and mf small charms are always welcome:)

My grail is at this link http://www.freewebs.com/sae1969/index.htm. This list also shows what I am missing. If I have more then one listed for the item - it should be available for trade. I also have a few skillers left since I never use them.

Thanks

Shawn

OMFG! Ignored again! Do you actually READ your thread?

sae1969
23-12-2004, 01:26
OMFG! Ignored again! Do you actually READ your thread?

Are U talking about the Bane Ash offer? Did you read my response in the other tread (that you hikacked:)) http://forums.rpgforums.net/showpost.php?p=3032878&postcount=23. I was interested in your mf charms and the BK sword but I am willing to see what you offer.

Shawn

Grimfeng
23-12-2004, 10:09
Are U talking about the Bane Ash offer? Did you read my response in the other tread (that you hikacked:)) http://forums.rpgforums.net/showpost.php?p=3032878&postcount=23. I was interested in your mf charms and the BK sword but I am willing to see what you offer.

Shawn

My reply to that one: :uhhuh: http://www.rpgforums.net/showpost.php?p=3034356&postcount=25

I'll make sure the charms listed are available and post the stats of the ones I've found recently. I'd rather not trade a TC87 for a TC3, possibly a Trang's Guise? Looks like you need one for grail.

maxgerin
23-12-2004, 10:30
My reply to that one: :uhhuh: http://www.rpgforums.net/showpost.php?p=3034356&postcount=25

I'll make sure the charms listed are available and post the stats of the ones I've found recently. I'd rather not trade a TC87 for a TC3, possibly a Trang's Guise? Looks like you need one for grail.

That Bane Ash is quite rare! I think it is one of two rarest TC3 items, IMHO according to my experience. The other being a Knell Striker, but I've seen that drop. As for Bane Ash, I've never seen one drop, ever; hence I'm willing to trade a TC87 item and some other items for that. But whatever suits the trader. :lol:

Anyway, how many items are you lacking for your grail Grimfeng? I'm down to 18, IIRC. And I don't think most of those will be acquired through trading (especially Tyreal's and Stormlash, to name a few :xrollseye ), nobody seems to be responsive anymore to my trade list... :xx:

--maxgerin

sae1969
23-12-2004, 12:12
I'd rather not trade a TC87 for a TC3, possibly a Trang's Guise? Looks like you need one for grail.

I can undertand not wanting to trade a tc87 for a tc3. I would agree with that:). I can also understand your impatience. I still have about 50 or so items still. Considering I needed about 80 or so earlier a few weeks ago, I am be getting eager, too. The ridiculus part is that I have all the normal items somewhere, I just can't find them. Is Tyreals' Might the hardest item in the game to find? Or is it a Zod?

Shawn

ps I found a Trang Ouls' Guise last night running Baal. That's why I want the mf charms, to increase my chances of finding stuff. I might go back to normal and start running around.

maxgerin
23-12-2004, 12:33
Is Tyreals' Might the hardest item in the game to find? Or is it a Zod?

Shawn


We can never compare Tyreal's Might with a Zod simply for the reason that Tyreal's Might is very hard to come by (IIRC, only Baal can drop this, but I'm not really sure); a Zod, on the other hand, is simply put IMPOSSIBLE to find. It must be ordained by the Diablo gods if one drops, and forever curse every player if ever this happens. The only Zod I know of in the SP forum is a cubed one. :xeek:
I'm not hoping, nor ever will be hoping, of finding one...

Oh, and concerning your Bane Ash, if for whatever reason you and Grimfeng don't agree on a trade for that, may I be next in line for that. That's the only normal item I'm lacking. But I think it's unlikely that Grimfeng will let go of that. :lol:

--maxgerin

frosty
23-12-2004, 13:48
Actually, the lvl 85 areas have a chance of dropping the Tyreal's might. Just the bosses and champs I believe. And Baal is the only act boss that can drop it. Zod on the other hand............. :xrollseye I have only known 3 people to have it.

Grimfeng
23-12-2004, 14:30
That Bane Ash is quite rare! I think it is one of two rarest TC3 items, IMHO according to my experience. The other being a Knell Striker, but I've seen that drop. As for Bane Ash, I've never seen one drop, ever; hence I'm willing to trade a TC87 item and some other items for that. But whatever suits the trader.

Anyway, how many items are you lacking for your grail Grimfeng? I'm down to 18, IIRC. And I don't think most of those will be acquired through trading (especially Tyreal's and Stormlash, to name a few :xrollseye ), nobody seems to be responsive anymore to my trade list...

--maxgerin
I would trade a TC87 for the Bane Ash, I'd just rather not. :xtongue:
I don't have very many TC87's left so I'd rather swap them for other 87's if possible. I'm down to 22 grail items and am ready to give up trading for them. I guess I'd need a better Gheed's, better War Trav's and better luck. :lol: I do better with charms and j00ls than my uniques and sets.

@sae1969: So if you want charms and j00ls I've got some damn good ones. And since I have 2 BK guardians, I could part with one for that Bane Ash if you still need one.

sae1969
27-12-2004, 08:17
.

@sae1969: So if you want charms and j00ls I've got some damn good ones. And since I have 2 BK guardians, I could part with one for that Bane Ash if you still need one.

What kind of MF stuff do you have? I am still arguing with myself about socketing my Occulus or Tal Orb with one of 2 ists that I have found/cubed. I could always compromise and socket the orb with the best jewel I can find. Charms always work...

lmk, ok?

Shawn

Grimfeng
27-12-2004, 20:39
This is all I have for trade:

Lizard's Small Charm of Good Luck
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 33
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 88
Fingerprint: 0xf90f06a5
+1 to Mana
6% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Shimmering Jewel
Required Level: 12
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0x33f6dfd4
All Resistances +9

Small Charm of Fortune
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 18
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0xb64b5ed9
5% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Aureolic Jewel
Required Level: 16
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 27
Fingerprint: 0xaf405a4d
+3 to Mana After Each Kill

Bitter Talisman
Jewel
Required Level: 14
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0xefb865da
+4 to Dexterity
Fire Resist +9%
Lightning Resist +9%
Cold Resist +9%
Poison Resist +32%

Bone Talisman
Jewel
Required Level: 16
Unidentified
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 84
Fingerprint: 0x51f02138
+14 Defense
3% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
+1 to Mana After Each Kill

Lucky Grand Charm of Sustenance
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 53
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0x70cda7b3
+32 to Life
9% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Lucky Large Charm
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 70
Fingerprint: 0xb8e60b90
6% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Small Charm of Fortune
Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
Required Level: 18
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x117477b
5% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

LMK if you see sth here, or if the BKG will suit.

sae1969
27-12-2004, 21:56
This is all I have for trade:
LMK if you see sth here, or if the BKG will suit.

The BKG would be quite satisfactory. If you don't really want to give up the tc87 item, then 2 small mf (6&5) charms would work. I assume that would be a fair trade...

lmk what you think.

Shawn

sae1969 @ yahoo.com

Grimfeng
28-12-2004, 00:05
Send the Bane Ash to grimfeng2000@yahoo.com and I'll send you the three mfsc's shown above. Thanks in advance!

sae1969
28-12-2004, 03:33
Send the Bane Ash to grimfeng2000@yahoo.com and I'll send you the three mfsc's shown above. Thanks in advance!

Mule sent

shawn

Grimfeng
28-12-2004, 05:00
Mule received and replied.

t4t!

grim