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qazxswcde
18-04-2005, 12:31
guides to makin assorted classes in classic
iv played classic much longer then iv played xpac so thoght id make a guide to help make the chars i made
chars are
hammerdin (MF)
holy shocker (mid level dueler)
charger(mid level dueler)
thats basically it had a summoner to but summoners dont work in classic
hammerdin
skills (when done)
20 bh
20 conc
20 blessed aim
20 vigor
1 holy shield
1 charge (prereq for holy shield)
1 redemption(already took all prereqs when got vigor)
that makes 90 points
-12
78 easily gotten level
stats
100 str(mayby less see gear)
51 dex
rest vit
0 energy
gear
wep
shard=50 fcr 10resist all 50 mana (best choice slightly expensive)
gull=100 mf (overpriced by the time you can afford you should be done with char)
scepter=2 pally (easily gotten worse then shard you can buy them off hell larzuk
shield
steelclash=1 pally 15 resist all 63 block(great starting shield basically free to)
sigons=1 all skills high block(same as steelclash no resist though)
rare=+2 pally and resist(by now you should have holy shield so blocking doesnt matter)
magic=+2 pally you can buy them off charsi(takes awile)
helm
tarn=+1 all skills 25-50 mf(best helm relitavly cheap)
3 p rubyed=lots of hp
3 p topaz=lots of mf(more then tarn)
3 p shappired= lots of man (shapires dont have to be perfect
rare= not worth the time
armour
angelic=use if your gonna use angelic
silks=one skill(overpriced)
gskins=resist(overpriced to)
rare/magic=go for resist or anthing of the colussos
boots
sigons=use if your gonna use sigs
rare=lookin for mf and resiist probally better off with just mf both can be costly
belt
sigons=use if your gonna use sigons
gwrap=30 mf(probally best)
rare/magic= 80 or up hp belt buy off charsi
gloves
magefist=20fcr (best choice gives 70 fcr with shard)
frostburns=40% mana
chacies=up to 40 mf(another good choice)
sigons=use if your gonna use sigs
amulet
angelic=use if your gonna use angleic
rare=+2 pally (you can gamble them)
rings
2 angelic=use if your gonna use angelic
2 nagel= up to 60 mf
2 soj= 2 to all skills 4o% mana (very expensive)
2 rares=10 fcr plus mf or resist or both
the 3 good sets for hammerdins
angelic (best set at begining)
100 mf
110 hp
1 skill
and resists
very low level reqs
sigons
50 mf
and some resist
good for the 50 mf
milagabra
dont use noone seems to have it
mf places
hell cs=very very slow if you do alone not a good idea with a full xp bar
hell meph= to slow if you dont hack.
hell andy=great mf spot get there with vigor
nm cs= good if your not strong yet
norm cs=very good idea when you start and have no gear just use fanat so you never have to stop killin angleic and sigs are a good idea for 150mf so is a tarn
just gonna do hammerdin
sweetcorn
04-05-2005, 23:44
just made one, and i always die in hell meph lolol
fredsta54
04-05-2005, 23:52
eh.... Hammerdins are good mfers and all but they dont really use... this gear... you will die too often and... i dont think a hammerdin is viable w/o decent resists, except for mabye the cow lvl. They just have to get to close so they need to tank
sweetcorn
05-05-2005, 00:35
eh.... Hammerdins are good mfers and all but they dont really use... this gear... you will die too often and... i dont think a hammerdin is viable w/o decent resists, except for mabye the cow lvl. They just have to get to close so they need to tank
what gear would you use?
fredsta54
05-05-2005, 01:32
well, theres lost of expensive rares you could socket w/ perf topazs but lets be realistic.
A good hammerdin mfer setup, imo, is
gull
goldskin
high mf tarnhelm
2 nagels
+1 or 2 priz shield socketed w/ p diamond OR 3 perf diamond shield
rare boots w/ r/w fhr resists, mf
magefist or chance gaurds
+ pally prismatic ammy w/ possibly mf
a rare fhr resist belt
This gives you over 2oo mf, enough resists to survive in hell, and enough + skills to speed up the killing. My lvl 89 hammerdin uses something like this for mfing, although he switched to diff gear for csing. (well, he did, he is now retired)
Fred
aznrice1869
15-07-2005, 02:38
descent guide
scepter=2 pally (easily gotten worse then shard you can buy them off hell larzuk
Larzuk isn't in classic, and he doesn't sell scepters...
I'd go with any rare with good mods and +3 BH on it.
Indemaijinj
11-08-2005, 15:24
I think he messed up Larzuk and Halbu
Id just like to add that in terms of damage, a scepter is nearly always better than shard.
Lets compare a simple +2 all skills scepter to shard. If you get your other FCR bonuses from magefist and a 10% fcr piece of jewellry, the damage difference created by fcr is 16.7% (comparing a 12 frame attack to a 10 frame one). The damage difference between the 2 options is 17% (comparing a 7006 damage attack to a 5807 one).
So, even in the case of a really craptastic scepter, it will do more damage (although its a small 0.3%) than with shard.
Of course, its up to you to decide weather you like the higher damage (and higher life because you dont have to invest into dexterity) that a scepter gives you or the nice mana and resist bonus from shard.
Andy and Meph take way too long IMO, why not go to Travincal?? Just get some decent resistance... Mainly fire and cold vs hydra's/fireball/meteor and blizzard.
I like to shop in act3 at Ormus since you can make a tp at the first wp (or Travincal wp)
And you just run to the waypoint, then enter town via tp again. The tp will stay up so you can repeat it forever. You can shop for both; +2shields and +2sceptors +skills + mods
drognan also sells sceptres - typically has a larger inventory than ormus. Even better, the gate for Act 2 is periodically right next to Drognan, meaning you can simply put vigor on, and run out of town, then back in to check his inventory of goods available. I have plenty of +2/+2 bh sceptres, some with other useful mods such as holy freeze (to slow down fana seis) - others with 15 str, but haven't been able to reclaim a +2/+2 conc, +bh one that I'd love have again...
as for mfing with a Din, I have found, that just being a lord, and killing in a CS for the quest drops (but not questing) trumps just about any amount of MF.
it's the reason that lvl 9x din's are remade... I was on last night for only about 1/2 hour, raided 3 games, and came up with a nice red crown... fhr, 3x life, tri rez (and no, there wasn't any PR on it).
For what it's worth this 86 lord din, is using a sceptre, hotspurs, magefists (I don't do the fcr hack) two cheapo fcr rings, a +1 ammy with FCR, and I will admit, a decent shield. All told, a couple of gulls worth of gear if you ignore the shield. A P Ward would equally suffice for surviving and accomplishing the raid, it'd just take a little longer being two skills down. he's got 60 base str, and the rest is pure vita.
I have tried the high MF% route, including making a popper, and quite simply have found that exploiting the quest glitch, be it from a mephy glitcher, or a lord kill in CS makes for much more frequent good drops.
Don't get me wrong, I have my angellics build barbarian, with tri topaz'ed hat, etc. and do use him from time to time. He's also how I managed to start filling up mules via constant flayer/travincal runs...
But, the basic idea of MFing is to be able to hit up as many high/rewarding bosses as possible as quickly as possible and then move onto the next game, rinse, lather and repeat.
Shard on a non pvp hammerdin....uhh....
Shard on a non pvp hammerdin....uhh....
on east softcore, even the pvp dins use sceptres...
on east softcore, even the pvp dins use sceptres...
Keyword being softcore, that is.
Anyhow, nice find on that crown :) Good rare helms are one of the hardest to find.
And I congratulate you on not using fcr hack. Now all you gotta do is just stop glitch mf'ing and I assume maphack, since you want to run andy and meph fast, and you are good to go!
Decent guide. :prop:
Keyword being softcore, that is.
Anyhow, nice find on that crown :) Good rare helms are one of the hardest to find.
And I congratulate you on not using fcr hack. Now all you gotta do is just stop glitch mf'ing and I assume maphack, since you want to run andy and meph fast, and you are good to go!
Decent guide. :prop:
glitch mfing is mephy is part of the game, just like lord kills in cs. I don't do andy, and haven't since I was first trying to level her. way back when.
I try not to make assumptions - but didn't mh result in literally thousands of cd keys and accounts being banned?
anyway, ty, that crown is indeed a pretty nice find.
I loaded xpac up this morning, and while I have to say the extra screen resolution is nice, I'm a bit underwhelmed - perhaps cause I'm using a 21" CRT and my normal resolution is 1600x1200... oh well, I raided a couple of games and pushed that lord din to 87.
and, the idea of someone working relatively hard to get a din into the 8x range, and then duelling said din... yeah, well seems a bit sado/masochistic if ya' ask me :grin: :shocked:
drognan also sells sceptres - typically has a larger inventory than ormus. Even better, the gate for Act 2 is periodically right next to Drognan, meaning you can simply put vigor on, and run out of town, then back in to check his inventory of goods available.
The reason why I advice Ormus (for a Paladin), is because you will be sure of item reset. Even when you get the message "Entering The Rocky Waste" if you don't run far enough the shop won't get reset... At least that's of my own experience. I only gamble with my sorc, in act2 anyway, so that I can simply run outside and teleport inside. That way I'm sure the shop is reset. Because if I don't run far enough teleport wont work.
How ever the inventory of Drognan is definately bigger. But he does not have a sorc... ?
sickobanza
03-06-2007, 06:43
just like lord kills in cs.
umm may i ask what do you mean lord kills in cs??
Lord, (aka = Nightmare mode completed.)
Means you have never killed Diablo on Hell mode before as your quest.
So if for example a Baron, (aka = Hell mode completed) makes a CS run the Diablo quest won't be available for you. You won't be able to get the quest, unless you create a game of your own or another Lord creates. Anyway...
If you as 'Lord' will kill Diablo when a Baron or Baroness made the game, Diablo will drop items as if you were killing him for your quest. Meaning a significant higher chance of Rare/Unique/Set items instead of Magicals.
This way you won't need any magicfind to get decent drops.
sickobanza
04-06-2007, 00:41
oo, so it's good to raid cow and trades games O_O
oo, so it's good to raid cow and trades games O_O
exactly. although frustratingly enough for me, this weekend at least, on east softcore ladder, the few cow games that were up, were made by a lord, so I couldn't finish the raids with my din. I cleared the cs except for infector's seal, then came back with my barbarian, and wiped out infector, then killed D.
:laugh: Then, in order to keep them on their toes, in the next couple of games, I brought my blizzer in to take out vizier/infector, popped seis' seal, and took out his buddies. leaving only the Cold Immunes, and seis alive in the CS.
came back again, with the baba hit seis with a well placed leap+stun, and whacked him with the WW.
none of the raids resulted in any decent finds, but the entertainment value provided by folks that couldn't believe a baba had raided the game was priceless. (the blizzer/baba are on different accounts, as is the din)
The reason why I advice Ormus (for a Paladin), is because you will be sure of item reset. Even when you get the message "Entering The Rocky Waste" if you don't run far enough the shop won't get reset... At least that's of my own experience. I only gamble with my sorc, in act2 anyway, so that I can simply run outside and teleport inside. That way I'm sure the shop is reset. Because if I don't run far enough teleport wont work.
How ever the inventory of Drognan is definately bigger. But he does not have a sorc... ?
Maybe u meant only shopping, since 4 gambling u dont have to leave town 4 reset :rolleyes:
Anyway, act 1 is nice too cause u can make a cow portal next to Akara, ergo no need to worry about running far enough, just jump in and out of cows...
-Lorg
Palas can charge back into the town in act 2, when shopping at drognan's. In my experience that eliminates the chance of shop not resetting items. Also i suggest shopping for scepters in NM, lower str rec on the scepters there.
I've made my first hammerdin, it's lvl 79 now. And now I'm wondering where i should put my remaining skills..=/
He's doing fine in hell cs (with bo xD), resists are 80/75/80/55, has now 280 stats in vitality. Should I put the skills in Holy shield? (I've put 1 in it). How does the max block rate work with holy shield and dex? I don't really get that.. =S
Or should I put the skills in salvation? I also heared from someone who said to put the skills in resist fire/cold/lightning
I've made my first hammerdin, it's lvl 79 now. And now I'm wondering where i should put my remaining skills..=/
He's doing fine in hell cs (with bo xD), resists are 80/75/80/55, has now 280 stats in vitality. Should I put the skills in Holy shield? (I've put 1 in it). How does the max block rate work with holy shield and dex? I don't really get that.. =S
Or should I put the skills in salvation? I also heared from someone who said to put the skills in resist fire/cold/lightning
Holy Shield is the final skill you should be maxing out. And from the looks of it, you're a PvM HDin, so a point into Salvation will help you.
- Akukami
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