Hammerdin PvP Talents! Question!

[LarsRuland]

Hello I've read the guide and there it says I need to get the mana regen thingy, but isn't that crap for PvP? Ain't I off beter with another Aura? If so please help me out and tell me what you did! :)

Thanks!

[EzkiMo]

I think this guy are meant for people who doesn't play pubs and ain't allowed to drink mana potions. So if you can drink blue pots don't care about that aura, stack the points in some other aura, that's my idea!

[TheBassman]

It's used for quick mana regen afaik.. I rarely use it unless the duel lasts longer than my entire belt of mana potions.. which is almost never.

[jaxz]

I think Meditation aura is useful in pubs. Zons love you. Necs Love you. And you can corpse guard.. OO

[Sechler]

I’m not sayin I’m some gawdly hdin, but I can usually stay out in the moor for extended periods of time w/o dying and use up a full belt of manas. So to cut down on towning, I kick on the medi for 10 secs and I’m fully regen’d. Plus you can spam hammies around you if a fast attacker (e.g. aa windy) is lurkin about and just switch from medi to conc when he gets close. I think its really handy if you remember to use it. If you’re willing to go back to town frequently, then put the pt in res light.

[Moritz]

the only thing thats good about meditation is the replenish life.

actually its laaaaame. you can charge aorund with infinite mana and replenish if you want.
lately I dueled a hammerdin in priv which used medi and one duel lasted over 20 minutes because he was a ****ing defwhore. now think about how much dmg I actually did until he died.


here are screenshots. I dont know how much time passed until I made the first screenshot with /time, it musta been over 30 minutes.
we had to stop 2 times between the duel because I needed mana.
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/2755/screenshot190if4.jpg (It should mean ''U were under 1/4 ...''. was a typo)
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4028/screenshot189zc9.jpg
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/5972/screenshot191dc0.jpg

[SicHalo]

lol NK_Jigsaw ROFL i cant stand him...

he thinks he is godly as well ....

Im surprised he did not stack up abs + antidote pots vs u Moe and go off screen and use medi to heal for 5 mins then come back at full hp -___-

20 mins is a joke a duel lasting more than 5 mins is too much but 20....

i would have left game and i could not care less if someone called it autowin etc

I admit in pub duels i use a foh cta scepter on switch granting me medi but even so i only ever resort to this if all pots are gone in the middle of a duel and i recover maybe half mana then go back at it or im out side town and i cant be asked to go back and heal and i aint lost alot of hp then i will medi to get back up to max hp

[Moritz]

BTW the duels were on nightmare because crap eu ladder nerds think that priv duels belong to nightmare.
sorry to you ladder guys but that is the dumbest rule ever.

to come to the point, venom was basically doing only half dmg, as you cannot triwhirl a hammerdin.
and the duel took about 30 mins harhr.
he was using tg and tmc. but I noticed it later when I thought about his gear and he had probably 50-70 fcr with his setup.

[yelopen]

BTW the duels were on nightmare because crap eu ladder nerds think that priv duels belong to nightmare.
sorry to you ladder guys but that is the dumbest rule ever.

to come to the point, venom was basically doing only half dmg, as you cannot triwhirl a hammerdin.
and the duel took about 30 mins harhr.
he was using tg and tmc. but I noticed it later when I thought about his gear and he had probably 50-70 fcr with his setup.

I was under the impression that NON-ladder duelers thought priv duels were nightmare o_O

When I played ladder, everyone dueled in Hell, and after reset they all told us to duel in nm :undecided:

[Moritz]

I dont know, you live in California and I live in Germany ^_^

we prolly are not on the same realm!? eu nl duels have always been on hell =]

[yelopen]

I dont know, you live in California and I live in Germany ^_^

we prolly are not on the same realm!? eu nl duels have always been on hell =]

Westies are messed up :laugh:

[akumaxxyz]

lol just squelch that crap and find legit gg duelers, people who thinks they pwnt with hack is funny as hell

[rare]

gm private games have been in nightmare for as long as I can remember.. GI, pvpwest, ch, 76, etc..

i think it was done to prevent massively defensive duels in hell, and cookie cutter ele based chars spamming and doing more than fair damage in hell.

[SicHalo]

BTW the duels were on nightmare because crap eu ladder nerds think that priv duels belong to nightmare.
sorry to you ladder guys but that is the dumbest rule ever.

to come to the point, venom was basically doing only half dmg, as you cannot triwhirl a hammerdin.
and the duel took about 30 mins harhr.
he was using tg and tmc. but I noticed it later when I thought about his gear and he had probably 50-70 fcr with his setup.

I hate nm duels as well plus the tmc part would not surprise me either..

and no only when i was on ladder that when someone asked me for a priv it when to nm. This is why i found it so crap.

no but some chars are just dissadvantaged in nm, blizz sorcs, assas using venom based attacks, psn mancer, and plus windies get a physical immune oak.

I remember i brought that up with Plumplum when he wanted to test his bva vs mage he made a nm game, i mean i dont mind stack but the fact in nm u need very little items to stack giving more flexability is just a dissadvantage, :prop:
I mean if u stack in hell it usaly will cost a few item changes which result in decreased dmg, ar, dr and possible life, which evens thing out vs stack.

[Moritz]

oh, jakob and me usually always duel on hell.


And imho playing really defensive over minutes is a sin. stop d2 if you cannot play normally. def is no fun for both players usually.
(exceptions are duels where you gotta be defensive to a certain degree. i.e. sorc vs bvc/wwsin etc).

[SicHalo]

oh, jakob and me usually always duel on hell.


And imho playing really defensive over minutes is a sin. stop d2 if you cannot play normally. def is no fun for both players usually.
(exceptions are duels where you gotta be defensive to a certain degree. i.e. sorc vs bvc/wwsin etc).

i agree defensive lay just is not fun, i mean i never expect someone to play a game where it is so offensive its suicidal but when its a duel like in the case u mentioned a duel for 20 mins vs hammer desyncing defensively using medi is ridiculous or a sorc that is always 2-3 screens away...

I mean sin vs ww barb u can play too agressively but even this i dont go mega defensive vs barb i play a balanced style fight not too defensive but no sucidal offence