Few builds to take out some public bm/gm smiters?

[Miikai]

I hate these kind a pallys. Well, doesn't every one?


I'm asking here about builds that are best for taking these bad boys out.

Curse on him that first will say a godly hammahamma palla! :azn:

I'm open for any other build.

[elmek]

Bone necro comes to mind. BSpirit, BWall, Bprison...

[Miikai]

Bone necro is on my Maybe list.

[elmek]

I do pretty good with my windy in max block setup vs them too.
Life Tap from exile is a pain, but it can be handled.

[mainaman]

bvc, necro, best is hammerdin imo

[Miikai]

bvc, necro, best is hammerdin imo

Curse on you! :evil:

[MysticDragon]

godly hammahamma palla

2nd to say it. I'm not cursed.

[DayDream]

Hammerdin and then necro.

[Miikai]

Don't expect anything good to happen in the next 7 days :rolleyes:

[ShazamLies]

The best smite vs. smiter? (This is the most humiliating way to defeat smiters IMO)

[akumaxxyz]

wind druid,hdin,bone nec, or cold sor, if they're one of those ultra stackers with cold resist shield it probably wont work

[BarbieSlawter]

I had a really great smiter before but the hardest for me was an orb sorceress. I killed hammerdins, wind druids, and bone necros easy. It also depends on the smiter if they are using hoz or exile, and there experience of dueling other classes. Just because hammerdins, windys, and bone necros teleport around it doesn't mean they're hard to beat. Also, max block on wind druids won't help against smiters because smite is magical damage and always hits.

[yelopen]

I had a really great smiter before but the hardest for me was an orb sorceress. I killed hammerdins, wind druids, and bone necros easy. It also depends on the smiter if they are using hoz or exile, and there experience of dueling other classes. Just because hammerdins, windys, and bone necros teleport around it doesn't mean they're hard to beat. Also, max block on wind druids won't help against smiters because smite is magical damage and always hits.

If you've been killing Wind Druids, Hammerdins, and Bone Necros easy, you must be dueling some weird people.

Wind Druids have minion stack.

Hammerdins have massive damage, and if try to get near them you're already in danger.

Bone Necros have prison and large amounts of spammable and unresistable damage :/

[HappyAssassin]

I had a really great smiter before but the hardest for me was an orb sorceress. I killed hammerdins, wind druids, and bone necros easy. It also depends on the smiter if they are using hoz or exile, and there experience of dueling other classes. Just because hammerdins, windys, and bone necros teleport around it doesn't mean they're hard to beat. Also, max block on wind druids won't help against smiters because smite is magical damage and always hits.

OMG no wonder you won! YOU HAVE THE GAMES ONLY MAGICAL DAMAGE SMITER!!!!

Don't give people advice if you don't know what you're talking about.

[Pidol]

people always talk about a anti-barb pally being unbeatable, quite frankly THEY ARE beatable

you just have to know how to whirlwind and have tons of AR (which is EASY to get), sometimes having no DR could actually help because of slots you can use to have more AR (its in youtube btw, some barb used no dr to kill anti-barb smiter)

you either do that with a bvc or use bone prison + laugh and kill then laugh more

[StrawberryCake]

bvc, necro, best is hammerdin imo

smite > baba~~
necro + hdin imo, ye
a pretty well played dudu would win in a ft5 duel aswell

[BarbieSlawter]

If you've been killing Wind Druids, Hammerdins, and Bone Necros easy, you must be dueling some weird people.

Wind Druids have minion stack.

Hammerdins have massive damage, and if try to get near them you're already in danger.

Bone Necros have prison and large amounts of spammable and unresistable damage :/

You have to play offensive against wind druids and charge a lot. They are the hardest of the three I mentioned. For hammerdins, when they teleport on you, charge-smite them first before they can start casting hammers. For Bone necros, you have to charge a lot definetly. These three I mentioned are not impossible :grin:

@HappyAssassin: Isn't it a bug or something? You don't need ar for smite. Everyone on bnet says smite isn't melee its magical. I haven't seen smite been blocked. Could you explain? You don't have to come out like that and not give an explanation just because your "Green" :grin: If I made a mistake, then my bad but everyone makes mistakes.

[Pidol]

smite > baba~~
necro + hdin imo, ye
a pretty well played dudu would win in a ft5 duel aswell

pure bs. even a crap barb can ww away for along time, just keep wwing away or in big circles and you can easily kill an anti-barb smiter

its so easy a caveman could do it

*Pidol us east ladder

[Uncle_Mike]

@Barbieslawter - smite does not require ar but it doesn't make it a magical attack, it is a physical attack

@pidol - I really hope there are some anti-barb smiters on East ladder because you seem to have met none :wink3:

[Pidol]

Richmen is one that i can recall, i have the recipe (this is completely legit btw) no hacks are being used in ladder right now

i'm always on, so if anyone has a anti-barb smiter in us east ill be happy to prove you guys wrong

;D

[BarbieSlawter]

@Barbieslawter - smite does not require ar but it doesn't make it a magical attack, it is a physical attack

@pidol - I really hope there are some anti-barb smiters on East ladder because you seem to have met none :wink3:

Oh, ok. Because on battlenet everyone goes its magical attack and not physical
My bad... Pretend you didn't see that :laugh:

Duel-wielding Barbarians are hard as well because of the enormous amount of damage they do. But then again, its all about experience because if you charge them from the back and name-lock there good as dead.

[StrawberryCake]

pure bs. even a crap barb can ww away for along time, just keep wwing away or in big circles and you can easily kill an anti-barb smiter

its so easy a caveman could do it

*Pidol us east ladder

sry but a lifetab smiter with nice teleskills > any baba, any day ~~
in bm anyway lol

[yuqing]

Smiters can't really out BM barbs. Holy Freeze affects smite way more then it affects ww and and tapping the smiter with a wand evens out survivability.

[AnimeCraze]

@HappyAssassin: Isn't it a bug or something? You don't need ar for smite. Everyone on bnet says smite isn't melee its magical. I haven't seen smite been blocked. Could you explain? You don't have to come out like that and not give an explanation just because your "Green" :grin: If I made a mistake, then my bad but everyone makes mistakes.If smite is magical, you cannot leech off it like how you cannot leech off berserk.

[StrawberryCake]

Smiters can't really out BM barbs. Holy Freeze affects smite way more then it affects ww and and tapping the smiter with a wand evens out survivability.

he casts lifetap, you cast amp instead...
using widowmaker for tapping the baba works wonders aswell

[yelopen]

You have to play offensive against wind druids and charge a lot. They are the hardest of the three I mentioned. For hammerdins, when they teleport on you, charge-smite them first before they can start casting hammers. For Bone necros, you have to charge a lot definetly. These three I mentioned are not impossible :grin:

@HappyAssassin: Isn't it a bug or something? You don't need ar for smite. Everyone on bnet says smite isn't melee its magical. I haven't seen smite been blocked. Could you explain? You don't have to come out like that and not give an explanation just because your "Green" :grin: If I made a mistake, then my bad but everyone makes mistakes.

Er, since when did hammerdins with brains teleport on smiters?

[MysticDragon]

Er, since when did hammerdins with brains teleport on smiters?

When they are lazy and the Smiter is bad. :P

[BarbieSlawter]

"Teleport on you" does not exactly mean they literally teleport on top, they usually teleport around you and I said CHARGE-smite

[mephiztophelez]

a high-ar setup ww-sin with knockback can do OK vs high-def smiters.

but lifetap is just obnoxiously rude.

[xxxkillerxxx]

Smiters can't really out BM barbs. Holy Freeze affects smite way more then it affects ww and and tapping the smiter with a wand evens out survivability.

Holy freeze makes barb whirl like a turtle = free hits. Charges doesn't work on paladins but the smiter can cast lifetap and amp at will and barbs can only counter it by fade. Lastly it's much harder for wwbarbs to juv since you can drink mid-ww.

[xxxkillerxxx]

You have to play offensive against wind druids and charge a lot. They are the hardest of the three I mentioned. For hammerdins, when they teleport on you, charge-smite them first before they can start casting hammers. For Bone necros, you have to charge a lot definetly. These three I mentioned are not impossible :grin:


Wind druids are by far the easiest of the three you mentioned. It's not hard to telesmite 98% of druids compared to killing above-average necs or average hammerdins.

[Uncle_Mike]

Wind druids are by far the easiest of the three you mentioned. It's not hard to telesmite 98% of druids compared to killing above-average necs or average hammerdins.

It's also not hard to avoid double posts, please... :rolleyes:

edit: do not reply to this :wink3:

[xxxkillerxxx]

people always talk about a anti-barb pally being unbeatable, quite frankly THEY ARE beatable

you just have to know how to whirlwind and have tons of AR (which is EASY to get), sometimes having no DR could actually help because of slots you can use to have more AR (its in youtube btw, some barb used no dr to kill anti-barb smiter)

you either do that with a bvc or use bone prison + laugh and kill then laugh more

Nice theories. Duel someone good or even decent at smiter and you'll see that reality is different. Bone prison is obviously useless vs smite but the smiter could use it like necs do, to soak up ww hits or cast iron maiden then prison mid-ww and force you to either teleport away at end of ww (invitation for free smite-hits, and if you're prisoned you wont get knocked back either) or keep whirling through prison and die lol.

[Pidol]

you make it seem like barbs cant use skills such as amp damage, life tap, bone prison, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

[akumaxxyz]

you make it seem like barbs cant use skills such as amp damage, life tap, bone prison, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

paladins have cleanse, barbs don't.

simply put a smiter with im charges and marrow walks will take out any barb, it restricts your best attack, ww

[SicHalo]

i see alot of wot appears to be "bs" here firstly smite is physical dmg however it ignore block and defense, however claw block from assa can block smite.

Secondly an anti barb smiter uses holy freeze + alot of slow and tele smite. This frankly is extremely hard for a barb to counter if done correctly. A smiter that chases after a barb whirling away is complete crap end of story and is not worth mentioning...

if they shift smite u clip them the death if they get smart and use a range 3 weap like ba for smite which makes clipping harder u use holyfreeze to slow they smite frames down.

Also hammer, bone necro and barbs usally are candidates to take out smiter, Windy is also a considerable build but i think lifetap here could be a prob but im no windy expert but still a good windy should more or less beat a smiter in all cases

Remember ironmaiden is in pvp is nerfed when player hits player, and whos to say a barb does not carry lifetap wand meaning lifetap>ironmaiden.

EDIT

Also a good hammerdin will never tele ontop of a smiter. Its almost guaranteed death or u will sustain massive dmg. The only time a hammerdin will attempt something like this is if the pala is not paying attention i.e surprise however its still much safer to tele next to him and drop hammers.

[Moritz]

hammerdin hands down.


but hammerdins are even dumber trash pub chars than smiters.

[mephiztophelez]

hammerdin hands down.


but hammerdins are even dumber trash pub chars than smiters.

word.

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[akumaxxyz]

barb using lt on smiter dont work good, on hdin i always tele south spot of smiter 2 hammmer any smiter is out unless he 5k+ life

[brainpower]

bearzon or plague javazon... :) or...bvc with doom ... wwsin ... >> smiter all the way
but in 90% of pubs...smiters rullz because of the lack in opponents gear :)

[Von Lazuli]

Good smiters should be able to beat both WW barbs and WW sins wih reasonable consistancy in GM duels, it is a matter of having rediculously large amounts of defence, which is fairly acheivible if the smiter is built for it. The addition of knockback to a WW character helps to even out the balance, but against a good tele smiter, barbs and sins will still lose. Whirling away works in a lot of cases, but against a good tele-smiter it is not a fool-proof tactic. I like to whirl away down a line of traps on my Hybrid, which works in a lot of cases, but against the better smiters, they will tele-smite me and simply tank the trap damage via very high resistances.

A balanced ES Blizzard sorceress can do decently against better Smiters by attempting to make it so that any attacks will be punished with massive damage. Also, the ES helps to counter some of the Smiters attacks. The addition of Open Wounds or a Cold Resist sheild makes this fight much more even though, so it is not a sure fire build.

My thoughts...

Laz

[Gimmershred]

max block stormshield bonenec 125fcr and a nice fhr break, with a point in decrep and a clay golem. You could even go for revives if you want too.
Just use walls to get the desynch out of him. I used to make a box around me and play defensive, or lure people to the "safety box".
prison , decrep, spam spirit/spear.
I only played a short time with this char and wasn't very skilled but i must say all meleechars were pretty easy to beat.
WW is easy too with some wallspam around you.

I also like nova/ts 95es infi sorc with 86fhr a lot as a allround pubdueller, although many things speak against it (no max block, needs to be close to attack, no damage when res is stacked).
If you get good with it almost no1 will ever hit you.

[akumaxxyz]

Good smiters should be able to beat both WW barbs and WW sins wih reasonable consistancy in GM duels, it is a matter of having rediculously large amounts of defence, which is fairly acheivible if the smiter is built for it. The addition of knockback to a WW character helps to even out the balance, but against a good tele smiter, barbs and sins will still lose. Whirling away works in a lot of cases, but against a good tele-smiter it is not a fool-proof tactic. I like to whirl away down a line of traps on my Hybrid, which works in a lot of cases, but against the better smiters, they will tele-smite me and simply tank the trap damage via very high resistances.

A balanced ES Blizzard sorceress can do decently against better Smiters by attempting to make it so that any attacks will be punished with massive damage. Also, the ES helps to counter some of the Smiters attacks. The addition of Open Wounds or a Cold Resist sheild makes this fight much more even though, so it is not a sure fire build.

My thoughts...

Laz

gm smiter cannot beat barb

[lendial]

ive seen the d2pk videos have the anti barb smiter (clegs) lose to zero dr bvc however i think they were using ebugs (which is an even bigger advantage pals).

from a pure bm perspective smiter have an edge but i dont really call that dueling because you can use juvs hacks and normaly frowned upon items/skills.

my question is mostly gm bvc vs smiter which there seems to be some debate about.

[xxxkillerxxx]

ive seen the d2pk videos have the anti barb smiter (clegs) lose to zero dr bvc however i think they were using ebugs (which is an even bigger advantage pals).

from a pure bm perspective smiter have an edge but i dont really call that dueling because you can use juvs hacks and normaly frowned upon items/skills.

my question is mostly gm bvc vs smiter which there seems to be some debate about.

Those videos mean nothing. GM differs from person to person but if you're talking about no slow+no tap then barb has advantage of course.

[mainaman]

ive seen the d2pk videos have the anti barb smiter (clegs) lose to zero dr bvc however i think they were using ebugs (which is an even bigger advantage pals).

from a pure bm perspective smiter have an edge but i dont really call that dueling because you can use juvs hacks and normaly frowned upon items/skills.

my question is mostly gm bvc vs smiter which there seems to be some debate about.the ony ebug that give some adv to the barb in that vid is the gbeast zerk, the heart of the wins is in the mass frw charms allowing the baba to be out of smite range 99% of the time even when slowed.
Gm bvc>smiter

[brainpower]

Good smiters should be able to beat both WW barbs and WW sins wih reasonable consistancy in GM duels, it is a matter of having rediculously large amounts of defence, which is fairly acheivible if the smiter is built for it. The addition of knockback to a WW character helps to even out the balance, but against a good tele smiter, barbs and sins will still lose. Whirling away works in a lot of cases, but against a good tele-smiter it is not a fool-proof tactic. I like to whirl away down a line of traps on my Hybrid, which works in a lot of cases, but against the better smiters, they will tele-smite me and simply tank the trap damage via very high resistances.

A balanced ES Blizzard sorceress can do decently against better Smiters by attempting to make it so that any attacks will be punished with massive damage. Also, the ES helps to counter some of the Smiters attacks. The addition of Open Wounds or a Cold Resist sheild makes this fight much more even though, so it is not a sure fire build.

My thoughts...

Laz

a good ghost flush the toilet with smiters...and my plague amazon loses only with 3 smiters in her entire career...

[xxxkillerxxx]

a good ghost flush the toilet with smiters...and my plague amazon loses only with 3 smiters in her entire career...

Then you never dueled anyone remotely good.

[TheBassman]

If we're really going to go with BM barb vs BM smiter.. I say..

Tele-smiter equips:

Crescent Moon (in whatever weapon) on switch.
Metalgrid Amulet

Tele-smiter summons:
Iron Golem and 5 Spirit Wolves

Tele-smiter does the following:
Teles around aimlessly and casts Iron Maiden on the barbarian.
He teles into the path of the barbarians WW.
Iron Maiden kills the barbarian, and if he gets lucky and lives Tele-smiter presses "w" and a few smites will finish the job.

That would be funny to see actually.

Moral: BM + these threads = way too much theorycrafting that is utterly pointless.

Go duel.

:wink:

:afro:

Hollllaaaaa.

[MysticDragon]

BM Smiter:

Stone
Tele Amulet
Marrowwalk

Life tap, then prison, then summon golem on him. Flash freeze telesmite. This will never happen really seeing how you either use an eth stone with not many charges or a low defense stone with expensive charges. It would cost a fortune to repair all. :O

[chileno]

If we're really going to go with BM barb vs BM smiter.. I say..

Tele-smiter equips:

Crescent Moon (in whatever weapon) on switch.
Metalgrid Amulet

Tele-smiter summons:
Iron Golem and 5 Spirit Wolves

Tele-smiter does the following:
Teles around aimlessly and casts Iron Maiden on the barbarian.
He teles into the path of the barbarians WW.
Iron Maiden kills the barbarian, and if he gets lucky and lives Tele-smiter presses "w" and a few smites will finish the job.

That would be funny to see actually.

Moral: BM + these threads = way too much theorycrafting that is utterly pointless.

Go duel.

:wink:

:afro:

Hollllaaaaa.


Holy freeze flash. :wave: bye bye to wolves. Agree with too much theory crafting tho.

[mephiztophelez]

a good ghost flush the toilet with smiters...
a good ghost or hybrid'sin will wtfpwn most GM smiters. those who sorb heavily will give a hybrid a lot of stress (and fail the GM test)
Then you never dueled anyone remotely good.
i have and i've destroyed my fair share of BM smiters. i found that full angelics + fools claw + maxed mastery (on my old ghost build) + visionary hat = somewhere over 35k AR without 'chant from memory. i seldom had much difficulty hitting even very high def smiters in that sort of getup. FCR went through the toilet however.

exile is the most irritating runeword in this game.

don't forget that Weapon Block can block smite.

[akumaxxyz]

a good ghost or hybrid'sin will wtfpwn most GM smiters. those who sorb heavily will give a hybrid a lot of stress (and fail the GM test)

i have and i've destroyed my fair share of BM smiters. i found that full angelics + fools claw + maxed mastery (on my old ghost build) + visionary hat = somewhere over 35k AR without 'chant from memory. i seldom had much difficulty hitting even very high def smiters in that sort of getup. FCR went through the toilet however.

exile is the most irritating runeword in this game.

don't forget that Weapon Block can block smite.

you should duel me on smiter, with just tgod i got 95resist :D

[Stevomoo]

i am quite new to duling but i had a go with my smiter i sloughtered the blizzard sorc and the friball/metior 1. but then a wind dudu turned up and i couldnt touch him he had 5 lots of summons and was hopping arould like mad, i couldnt click on him to kill him everytime i trieed i got a wolf then ban dead. so i think trhat a good wind druid with a few summoins would be good choice
(but what do i know)

[Rancors]

barb can also carry lifetap and slap on doom instead of beast ur smiter is gg with that slow attack speed. tele smite is just make thing eaiser for barb if he keeps ww, and lose tons of dmg from fort.

bm barb > bm smiter, gm barb > gm/bm smiter. u can go ahead watch some videos on youtube that even an exile smiter cant beat a gm barb. barb keep ww away there is no way a pure smiter come even close to go against barb.

holy freeze doesnt affect wwing, just the movement speed.

[mainaman]

barb can also carry lifetap and slap on doom instead of beast ur smiter is gg with that slow attack speed. tele smite is just make thing eaiser for barb if he keeps ww, and lose tons of dmg from fort.

bm barb > bm smiter, gm barb > gm/bm smiter. u can go ahead watch some videos on youtube that even an exile smiter cant beat a gm barb. barb keep ww away there is no way a pure smiter come even close to go against barb.

holy freeze doesnt affect wwing, just the movement speed.you obviosly havent met good smiters then..

[kykle]

greif zerk shift-smite>most ww barbs... use dracs and exile and you will probably finish the duel with full health

holy freeze does affect ww - it adds more to hit check while the ww is going past you. freezing a ww barb is a bad idea

[akumaxxyz]

greif zerk shift-smite>most ww barbs... use dracs and exile and you will probably finish the duel with full health

holy freeze does affect ww - it adds more to hit check while the ww is going past you. freezing a ww barb is a bad idea

most barbs suck. freezing a barb is good idea

[Rancors]

you obviosly havent met good smiters then..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5HnClZHG8IE

watch dat. apparently that guy has some good smiter gears but since it's a smiter i dunno how hard it can get since all u do is tele/charge dysench and shift-smiting crap. heck, this guy doesnt even drain the barb's life to half is just sad. he barely touches the barb. the second time he tries to play defensively and score some hits but still lose.

aggroing a ww away barb is retarded, (all he has to do just keep wwing on) but ur a smiter u have to get close so wat can u do.

[MysticDragon]

No one likes my Smiter build? :O

[akumaxxyz]

what smiter build you got? max light resist? and that video's smiter is crap

[MysticDragon]

BM Smiter:

Stone
Tele Amulet
Marrowwalk

Life tap, then prison, then summon golem on him. Flash freeze telesmite. This will never happen really seeing how you either use an eth stone with not many charges or a low defense stone with expensive charges. It would cost a fortune to repair all. :O

The not very practical build.

[Rancors]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-lXdeAOeO9I

well this one the smiter is not bad but is still gg. (he is even good with grief phase blade against a barb) apparently that his lmao. (mainaman)

the only thing i see smash die alot is when he faces bone necro cuz that class is imba as hell.

[TheBassman]

I cant remember the exact amount of ias required but a Grief PB (40%IAS) with fana active and other sources of AR (once again unsure of how high it needs to be) will counter Holy Freeze thus just making the barb have a weaker WW. Combine all this with tele-smite and lifetap, and high defence, I still see a BM smiter coming out on top given that he can tele-smite efficiently.

[mainaman]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5HnClZHG8IE

watch dat. apparently that guy has some good smiter gears but since it's a smiter i dunno how hard it can get since all u do is tele/charge dysench and shift-smiting crap. heck, this guy doesnt even drain the barb's life to half is just sad. he barely touches the barb. the second time he tries to play defensively and score some hits but still lose.

aggroing a ww away barb is retarded, (all he has to do just keep wwing on) but ur a smiter u have to get close so wat can u do.you need to realize that good smiters dont duel like that , and also a smiter can be made such that the barb has no chance unless some fantastic gear...
example of smiter built for smashing barbs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GlVepZ2cBQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMN20-xuHbY

[mainaman]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-lXdeAOeO9I

well this one the smiter is not bad but is still gg. (he is even good with grief phase blade against a barb) apparently that his lmao. (mainaman)

the only thing i see smash die alot is when he faces bone necro cuz that class is imba as hell.Bone necs are tough to duel on barb, but with really stable connection with low ping and 63 fcr the chances of doing well vs block nec are pretty decent.
Barbs are really nice chars to play but nowadays any char is made max block making bvc really a challange to master.

[lendial]

what charms is the antibarb smiter using? pcomb/45 lifers?

somethings to mention is that that antibarb smiter was using eth bugged armour and the barb was using ebuged beast(godly). also, a few barbs on that server were able to counter the barb counter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqaana3do0k

[mainaman]

what charms is the antibarb smiter using? pcomb/45 lifers?

somethings to mention is that that antibarb smiter was using eth bugged armour and the barb was using ebuged beast(godly). also, a few barbs on that server were able to counter the barb counter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqaana3do0kthe charms are 50 lifers and def/lifers, the barb wins because of specific charm set up.
The reason the barbs were getting so many kills is lag.

[mephiztophelez]

you should duel me on smiter, with just tgod i got 95resist :D

aha, so not a gm duel then......

[Rancors]

you need to realize that good smiters dont duel like that , and also a smiter can be made such that the barb has no chance unless some fantastic gear...
example of smiter built for smashing barbs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GlVepZ2cBQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMN20-xuHbY

lol hell that smiter has real high def.

[lendial]

how much is it? pretty hard to see due to video quality

[akumaxxyz]

aha, so not a gm duel then......

i can duel with no tgod,was just saying a good smiter with max light res can kill anye lighttrap/ww hybrid

[Hyphy]

imo bone nerc can die to 75 fcr telesmite


hdin same thing. bvc etc etc unless u gawdly like xombie afk

[mephiztophelez]

i can duel with no tgod,was just saying a good smiter with max light res can kill anye lighttrap/ww hybrid

still sticking to this theory?

[mainaman]

how much is it? pretty hard to see due to video quality60k+ def right there

[akumaxxyz]

still sticking to this theory?

ya just give me some more duels i'll get more frags

[xxxkillerxxx]

a good ghost or hybrid'sin will wtfpwn most GM smiters. those who sorb heavily will give a hybrid a lot of stress (and fail the GM test)

i have and i've destroyed my fair share of BM smiters. i found that full angelics + fools claw + maxed mastery (on my old ghost build) + visionary hat = somewhere over 35k AR without 'chant from memory. i seldom had much difficulty hitting even very high def smiters in that sort of getup. FCR went through the toilet however.

exile is the most irritating runeword in this game.

don't forget that Weapon Block can block smite.

I was referring to smite vs zon lol.

Anyway ghosts dont do any damage to prepared smiters, and really good ones desynch well enough to either be able to telesmite you or just desynch straight up and smite you. Wwsins have horrible mobility as well so freeze/slow is very effective + they cant use doom and arent likely to use clegs either hehe.

[chileno]

i can duel with no tgod,was just saying a good smiter with max light res can kill anye lighttrap/ww hybrid

I just put yours and TJ's duels from last night in the vid section.

[akumaxxyz]

is clegs and andys considered bm here?

[mainaman]

is clegs and andys considered bm here?whts bm in duels is set by the particular dueling rules of the realm one play, not by the forum.

[akumaxxyz]

whts bm in duels is set by the particular dueling rules of the realm one play, not by the forum.

asking if people consider those are bm here, and its a different story on all realms

[mainaman]

asking if people consider those are bm here, and its a different story on all realmsprecisely what I said, what difference does it make if euro consider clegs and andys bm if you play on west..I was saying it don't matter what the forum considers bm , its not like you gonna get banned for over absorbing or something. Most of all it matters what you agree with your oponent about gm/bm.