DIII . Why not RTS ?

[aishilee]

we have massive/intensive discussion about D3 being MMORPG.

Being like WOW or not,
Being like HellGate or not,
Being like Halo or not,
Being like D2 itself or not,
Being like a little of all the above..

Why not go RTS. lol.

Well, ok lets see what blizzards main Franchises did,
StarCraft. RTS
WarCraft. RTS
Diablo. RPG
World of Warcraft.RPG

Well. All of their games are very sucessful. So why not implement both RPG - RTS together. Something Like Shattered Galaxy. hmm.

Doesnt sound like a good idea? hmm.. maybe. maybe not.
lets hear it.

[yellowguy]

RTS?
haha sorry noob question

[aishilee]

nah. there is no noob questions. only noob answers. haha

Real Time Strategy gameplay. (RTS)

haha like build up an army and go to war or sth.
very much like Red Alert, Command and Conquer, StarCraft and Warcraft games.

[mjkittredge]

RTS is the most overdone genre on PCs. Problem is, a lot of them are too much alike, so it's almost like if you've played one, you've played them all.

[aishilee]

hmm. isn't that the very same thing with RPG games and even FPS games.. in fact every genre.? hmm.

well. Hmm i don't think they are much alike apart from massing armies/or do some cunning stuffs to eliminate your opponents. Well if you are comparing SC with WC3 with FT with SC2, i think they would of coz be pretty much the same in UserInterface and such since they came from Blizzard... Likewise if you are to compare the C&C + Redalert series, they would be pretty much the same game type.

But if you are comparing to Command and Conquer Vs FrozenThrone. Then i think they are pretty much different. Well If you would to compare to Shattered Galaxy, den that is even more different with the rest of the RTS games.

Well.. yea. hmm..

[Mestre Crjspim]

Diablo RTS??? Don't play with "serious" issues... Diablo is an adventure RPG and this is the very essence of the game. One of the most particular game aspects is it's randomness which brings us the possibility to "farm" the hypothetical perfect gear to face all alone the evils of hell having "surprises" pretty much every time you play. The very soul of the Diablo series is the evolution of your characters and the "collection" of items... turning it into a RTS would just be creating a new gameplay, or maybe a new game from bottom to top. And yes, I know that the same was done in the Warcraft series, beggining with a "RTS"(?) and transforming it ultimatly into a RPG, or better, into a MMORPG. But this is not what I really want to see in my favorite series, whatsoever. For me Diablo is what it is, a RPG where I pick up a sword and use my Fanaticism aura to kill hordes of monsters and boost my friends powers, so I can "treasure hunt" and become stronger and stronger...

[Kryyn]

Hmm.. Actually, a Diablo RTS doesn't sound too bad. But it would be like WarCraft with a Diablo mod put in the directory files.

So, just release an RPG and everyone that left Diablo will come back. I don't think the RTS Diablo would do very good in the franchise.

[Gorny]

While we're at it, lets create a Diablo spin off called "Diablo Fantasy Tactics" or some such title.

Same engine and concept of Final Fantasy Tactics, all Diablo based.


-Sorry, but I could not resist tossing that in for some odd reason.....

[PerfectFifth]

Nah man. It wouldn't make any sense to the story-line. It would be cheesy for sure.

[omgwtfbbqpwned]

Imagine the possibilities.

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[aishilee]

Imagine the possibilities.

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hmmm....

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[minizx]

Imagine the possibilities.

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omg the gfx look so real are you really an insider that sneaked some pictures out of blizz hq because on the basis of these pictures alone im going to say its true :grin:

[Shadowbrand]

Imagine the possibilities.

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Need I say? EPIC PHAIL.

[Mestre Crjspim]

Thank the great Archeangel Tyreal and all the other saints that Diablo is a RPG and hopefully will keep like that.

[PerfectFifth]

Imagine the possibilities.

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Lol. That's good.

[nolan16]

Imagine the possibilities.

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Wow.. hahaha nice one!

[Gorny]

Lololz..........

[Omikron8]

because the market is flooded with RTS titles

on the other hand that are practically zero worthwhile action RPG titles

[Melchoir]

i have thought about this before you even put this tread up. how about there willl be five civs? one for each act, none of the heroes. for each you can could 3 "heroes" but after you cant choose the others. the heroes could have different skins depending on level and "path" you choose.
Heroes:
ACT 1:
Griswold: redemption,demonic,earthbonded
Andariel: spider,scorpion,serpent
Blood Raven:redemption,demonic,undecided
ACT 2:
Radament:redemption, Pharaoh,demonic
Summoner:undecided so far
Duriel:undecided
ACT 3:
Council member:redemption,demonic,elemental
Zarkarum Blade: same as cm
Mephisto: undecided
ACT 4:
Izual: redemption,demonic,UD
hephasto: same as izual
diablo:ud
Act 5:
just all were UD
Baal,nihlathak,shenk

each would have different skins as they could their path, and each would have personal unique guards.

[slickr]

RTS is the most overdone genre on PCs. Problem is, a lot of them are too much alike, so it's almost like if you've played one, you've played them all.

Hmmm, and I thought FPS were overdone, phhh I must live on other planet I guess.....

Anyways D3 a RTS? No way, it just won't work.

[Funkopotamus]

Shattered Galaxy is awesome, but it would probably be awkward in Diablo form.

[Sein Schatten]

Imagine the possibilities.

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I would play it. :D

[mince pies]

Changing a franchise that started off as an RPG to an RTS would seem like a step backwards rather than forwards

[Funkopotamus]

You mean for Diablo or in general?

[mince pies]

You mean for Diablo or in general?

In general but especially for Diablo. With it being such a fast-based game, completely changing the format from a fast-based game to strategy-based game would be marketing suicide IMO.

I think it worked for WarCraft changing from an RTS to an MMORPG purely because of the vast amount of audiences they get

[Rashiminos]

we have massive/intensive discussion about D3 being MMORPG.



Whoa whoa whoa.

Penalty: Wrong genre used in reference to Diablo franchise.

It's an action role-playing game or "ARPG."

8 players is not massive.

That is all.

[Funkopotamus]

In general but especially for Diablo. With it being such a fast-based game, completely changing the format from a fast-based game to strategy-based game would be marketing suicide IMO.

I think it worked for WarCraft changing from an RTS to an MMORPG purely because of the vast amount of audiences they get
If it works it works, if it doesn't it doesn't. I don't think it'd work for Diablo either but the way it was worded made it sound like RTS was a lesser genre or something.

[BarbaQ]

Imagine the possibilities.

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LOL wtf mate :D, yea this illustrates the point very well. (Nice layout and props for it)
RTS is not defenately not needed. Maybe D4 as MMORPG but thats about it..:wave:

[NKlint]

If the hammerdins were to be massed like that they would take forever to build and require a hefty amount of resources... I'm betting that in the Diablo RTS the resources are, instead of gold and wood or minerals and vespene gas it's Enigmas and Sojs.

[Kaeros]

My Corpse Explosion Requires More Vespene Gas.

[Tai.]

Whoa whoa whoa.

Penalty: Wrong genre used in reference to Diablo franchise.

It's an action role-playing game or "ARPG."

8 players is not massive.

That is all.

Excuse me?!

There has been an ongoing debate about whether or not people would like to see Diablo 3 marketed as an MMORPG. You are correct that Diablo 2 with it's 8 person game size is not "Massive" but that is in no way what anyone has been discussing. Please don't correct people when your facts are completely wrong.

That is all.

[blankblank]

hahaha that was funny!

I imagine they could make Diablo RTS but I don't think they have enough units to fill up "races".

And I do hope that warcraft returns to RTS with Warcraft IV to move the story forward..

[Paalt]

I think it would work if you would make it like the Spellforce games. So instead of a pure rts it would be RPG/RTS. Some levels is played solo with a few minions. And in the others, you would have to set up a base and summon/recruit an army. The army needs tanks/archers/spellcasters and siege units. Should not be a big problem really. Oh and the races in the game would be angels/demons. Human hero, summons his army of choice and fights the other. Simple.
And to keep it Dablo like:
- enemy drops loot that you could equip or sell to vendor
- health/mana pots for your hero
- if your hero dies in battle, he will respawn in base
- your hero has a skill tree and can use them in battle

Of course it works...

[Stalin]

My problem with RTS games is that I suck at them, it is like playing chess except it is difficult to actually MOVE your pieces. I always found them to be a bit awkward, and on top of that, I suck at chess. RTS games are like chess simplified down to a retarded level, which is why I feel like crap when my *** is handed to me over B.net in warcraft. And SO-I play diablo. Not starcraft, or warcraft, DIABLO! If diablo became an RTS I would be enraged, and I would instantly give up on blizzard-as they will have ruined my favorite game. Diablo relaxes me, and at the same time gives me something to do. RTS is the opposite, it is a frantic "Every second counts" mind-killer. For me, Diablo and RTS cannot mix to create something nice-as it would no longer be something worth playing in my eyes.

[Sein Schatten]

RTS games are like chess simplified down to a retarded level,

lol. Yeah, sure, whatever makes you sleep at night.

[Starving_Poet]

lol. Yeah, sure, whatever makes you sleep at night.

Hehe, RTS games are more like chess, where whomever can build the most pawns wins. :yes:

[Stalin]

Basically. I am just saying that that is how I feel about it, and I cant stand them.