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ThulRasha
02-07-2008, 14:58
More speculation about the other classes besides the already revealed Barbarian and Witch Doctor.

These images may be acidentally released in artwork or panel interview movies. They could show some of the other classes, or they might just be enemies or NPCs.

This topic is not supposed to be about speculation of the 3 remaining classes. For example, if you think one of the remaining classes is a paladin, post so in the class speculation topic. Unless you have a picture taken from a Diablo3 source, then post it here. Comments about the pictures listed below do of course go here.


Druid:
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/2969/classdruid2lu3.jpg

Mage male:
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/8519/classevokersa9.jpg

Mage female:
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9649/classmagehn3.jpg

Cleric:
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/2069/classclericxg2.jpg

A Joke hopefully:
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/3229/classfatsoud1.jpg


(Most images taken from WWI videos).
Source: http://www.truveo.com/Diablo-III-Game-Design-Panel-PC/id/4097542540


Keep in mind that this is just speculation.
The Druid may just be the female barbarian in a druidic garb, but it doesn't look so muscled as the other image of the female barbarian. So I think this is genuine. Either a druid or shaman.
The Mages and Cleric may just be oponents, semi unique oponents perhaps.
And I do not know what to make of the corpulent man in the last image.

Fallen_62
02-07-2008, 15:29
The last one is Griswold resurrected in the New Tristram ;) (I really don't know, that was just making a joke ;)

ThulRasha
02-07-2008, 15:36
Come to think of it, could he perhaps be Gheed? A 20 year older and filled with tasty fruit cakes one.

And the male mage could be Drognan, or any other Vizjerei.

jamesisbest
02-07-2008, 16:02
It would make sense if he was Gheed. He always seemed so gluttonous taunting you with his dirt cheap gambling items that never gave you anything. Heck I bet when he made the gheeds charm he was trying to make cake find but all he got was gold and magic find so he decided to toss it ;D.

smartdot
02-07-2008, 16:29
well blizzard said that they are trying to push team play more, so it wouldn't surprise me if the cleric looking character was real, as it would help a team a lot, especially if the only source of healing were the globe things.

Fallen_62
02-07-2008, 17:06
I would love to play a cleric :D I played monk a lot in GW, and I think a Cleric in D3 would be awesome :D

Merick
02-07-2008, 17:08
A cleric could also be a dedicated DPS spell caster with some "extra damage against demons/undead" skills.

HRP
02-07-2008, 17:16
That fat dude is totally Gheed. Man, I hated that guy.

Ampersand
02-07-2008, 17:20
A cleric is a neat idea!

Could be a split caster / melee class

The thing about clerics in other games is that they are not in particular related to the "light". It's all about which God they worship

A Cleric in D3 where the skill trees divide him between light and a more Dark themed style ala. demonic powers (fight fire with fire etc.) would certainly make my day. :crazyeyes:

A flagellant type of Cleric is all good.

superdave
02-07-2008, 17:23
the fat guy is desoto(i believe that is what his name is)...in the artwork trailer there is a sketch of him...as they pan up you can just barely make out his name.

he is an NPC.

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/3229/classfatsoud1.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x89/superdave02/desoto.jpg

Queen Mebd
02-07-2008, 18:06
I don't know about that, De Soto could just be the artist's name. However he is old, and has a white mullet from the looks of it...it must be a necromancer!!! He's back in D3 (and he's no longer anorexic); there will actually be a character to summon undead and shoot bone spirits//spears!!!!

superdave
02-07-2008, 18:54
I don't know about that, De Soto could just be the artist's name.

i wouldn't say that he was an NPC if i didn't have some evidence to back up my statement.

his full name is Pablo DeSoto...it seems that he hails from the fishing village of Wortham near the Festering Wood.

i can't locate either on the world map but they are close to tristram.

Queen Mebd
02-07-2008, 19:03
Oh I know, I just couldn't but help myself and poke fun at all the 'the world is coming to an end because we haven't seen a return of the necromancer in d3 just yet' threads and banter.

defeated26
02-07-2008, 19:49
The witch doctor seems to play like a Necro, i'm assuming that the Necro is being replaced by him.

raveharu
03-07-2008, 06:48
The first one should be the female variation of the Barbarian.

The third one should be the female variation of the WD.

The others, they look more like the enemies.

The last one, ????????

FistOfFury
03-07-2008, 11:20
I'm not sure why the cleric one would be a cleric unless it has elemental cleric skills like the pally did. Half of him is reddish/orange and the other half is blueish with what looks like ice in his hands. Fire and Ice. Maybe reading too much into it and it's simply just a mage type character.

5zigen
03-07-2008, 12:20
The first one should be the female variation of the Barbarian.


I don't think so. In the lore the barbarians weren't so connected to nature (the ones who were split into the sect that became druids or something), but in the picture the girl is covered with pelts and has tons of animals around her, which leads me to believe it's not the barbarian.

My guess is she's the "ranged" archetype and they call it the "ranger" which is something that uses physical ranged weapons and has a nature theme. Just speculation.

nSin
03-07-2008, 17:24
I find it more likely that the it's a barbarian who has a "nature" skill tree.

Anathema
03-07-2008, 17:45
Am I the only one who thinks the "male mage" looks completely bad-assed? Now thats a sorceror.

Make a caster that looks like that and maybe I'll quit my silent tears about the necro. (the WD is a cool idea imho)

Magi
03-07-2008, 18:34
I find it more likely that the it's a barbarian who has a "nature" skill tree.

How about a "Beast Master"?

It appears that you can acquire allies in the game (I confessed I only watched the first couple of minutes of the game play trailer.) Didn't the barbarian acquire some archers as allies in the vid?

It's not much more of a stretch to allow a player class to acquire beast "allies" as well, thus is born: The Beast Master!

Thunderchild
03-07-2008, 22:07
I doubt it's the barb... but it -could- be the witchdoctor. All in all, a witchdoctor is a Shaman of sorts...
I really love the Druid concept, and as far as graphics and gameplay- I adored the Druid's elemental skillset. Sucky though it may be, it was interesting and quite pretty too( I love flashies )

However, I think that adding -another- tribal oriented character is going a tad far with the theme maybe?

I just hope there's diversity. I'd like to hope that -all- characters -can- solo the game. It should, no, it -must- be hard, but it should be possible.

In D2 it ended up being all about 2-3 hotkeys... and that was just boring.

I am hoping there'll be more tactics.

Flux
05-07-2008, 13:57
I don't know about that, De Soto could just be the artist's name.

The artist's name is Peter Lee. You can read it on the pic, and he did at least half the concept art pics we've seen so far. Busy and talented guy.

Flux
05-07-2008, 14:00
I have to argue with the title of this thread. "Accidentally" is in no way, shape, or form a word that can be applied to the art movie. Blizzard selected all of those images carefully, and likely spent dozens of man hours putting them in order, deciding which ones to show zooming in or out or panning from the side, etc. Anything in that movie they want us to see and speculate about.

That said, it doesn't mean all those non-barbs/WDs are NPCs or monsters; they could have given us some glimpses of future character art as well. But it wouldn't be an accident, is my only point.

Peotto
05-07-2008, 18:55
Ok so I read up to page 2, so this might be covered...

Does anyone else think the mage looks extremely obvious? Like thats just the general image for a mage? Some off skin color, skinny ***, pointy eared, lanky, weirdo? I would really like to see them bring back the sinbad looking mage from diablo 1. That guy looked so badass, also like he could smash somebody with his staff if he ran outta mana. That concept art looks like carrying a staff would overburden him.

phillycheez
06-07-2008, 06:53
I think only plausible one out of those pictures are probably the first Druid pic and the Cleric pic. The Mage pictures seem like they're more fit to be monsters that the players will encounter in the game.

ThulRasha
07-07-2008, 14:26
I have to argue with the title of this thread. "Accidentally" is in no way, shape, or form a word that can be applied to the art movie. Blizzard selected all of those images carefully, and likely spent dozens of man hours putting them in order, deciding which ones to show zooming in or out or panning from the side, etc. Anything in that movie they want us to see and speculate about.

That said, it doesn't mean all those non-barbs/WDs are NPCs or monsters; they could have given us some glimpses of future character art as well. But it wouldn't be an accident, is my only point.

The word acidentally was maybe not so well chosen, but there is something strange going on. The artwork trailer is no longer on blizzards site and some of the images can not be found in the artwork section.
The picture of the *aledged* female mage for example was only shown briefly during the game development panel video, I don't recall that it was in the artwork trailer, and it for sure isn't in the artwork pictures.

Fallen_62
07-07-2008, 14:42
The word acidentally was maybe not so well chosen, but there is something strange going on. The artwork trailer is no longer on blizzards site and some of the images can not be found in the artwork section.
The picture of the *aledged* female mage for example was only shown briefly during the game development panel video, I don't recall that it was in the artwork trailer, and it for sure isn't in the artwork pictures.
I think that is all part of what Flux was talking about... Blizzard is "teasing" us, keeping us guessing as to who and what those drawings were of. Leave them up for a week, see all the speculation, laugh, then remove them and watch the theories fly then...

DylWeed
07-07-2008, 16:46
I hope that means that Gheed is lying dead somewhere then..

DWS
07-07-2008, 17:19
That mage looks like a Vizjerei to me and I for one would welcome their inclusion. I suppose that wouldn't explain why there's a female one, but perhaps they had a bra burning sit in and now have women in their midst.

proudfoot
08-07-2008, 04:51
I doubt we'll see a "healer class" type character like a Cleric. From what I've seen/heard, every class may have one or two party-boosting or party-healing skills, and the health orbs will be party-affecting (or AoE or something), so there would be no point in making a character built so much around support. Diablo is not a support character-friendly game type.

KiLLJOi
08-07-2008, 05:36
I don't know if this picture is in here somewhere, but take a look:thumbup: a Paladin looking class armed with a sword and shield that even resembles the default paladin's look from Diablo II:

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9450/paladinoc1.png

a brick
08-07-2008, 11:13
I think those might be mercenaries or helpers or something. they all look too identical to each other to be a unique character imo. i mean, they look the same as the guy with the bow and paladins dont really use bows very often...

good try though but i don't think they are bringing the paladin back as that. but they might bring him back...who knows cept blizzard?

KiLLJOi
08-07-2008, 11:19
I don't think they are mercenaries because its not really possible to have merc's without a playable character to own them, and from the picture you can see that there is no other classes around to fill in that position:scratchchin:

Also, when comparing the Paladin of D2 to this character, see the resemblance of clothing, Brown tunic, green pants. Not to mention, in the picture in my prior post, the top Paladin looking character is positioned directly in the center of the screen (he was before I cropped), the view of a player.

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2601/pallybv4.png

ThulRasha
08-07-2008, 11:37
I don't think they are mercenaries because its not really possible to have merc's without a playable character to own them, and from the picture you can see that there is no other classes around to fill in that position:scratchchin:

Also, when comparing the Paladin of D2 to this character, see the resemblance of clothing, Brown tunic, green pants

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2601/pallybv4.png

That they look so similar to the D2 paladin is more a sign that they are not player characters. Blizzard would not want to make them so similar, that would be a bit boring.
Look at what they did to the Barbarian for example. If Blizzard brought the Paladin class back in D3, it would certainly look more impressive than these shots.

There is no playable character nearby because this is a promo screenshot, either no one is playing here, or the mercenaries are not yet part of the players party. Just like in the gameplay trailer, mercenaries stand/walk/fight by themselves unless clicked on to add to your party.

That said, I think you are right that they are paladins, and they are the same ones as from D2. But I very much doubt that they are a character class, and I don't think these are controled by a player.

KiLLJOi
08-07-2008, 11:59
Actually you make a good point by bringing the barbarian into the discussion. If these were playable paladins, they would have to look 20 years older to fit into the story

lionheart
08-07-2008, 12:09
Plus man cmon, they look a little bit too lame to be the new paladins. If they are wow, not much thought into making them...

a brick
08-07-2008, 12:23
i think if there were to be a paladin itd look more like the "cleric" from the first post. It would have more of a holy feel maybe and much cooler looking.

I really think those guys are mercs, paladins probably cus they do look alike, but i dont think u can play them. so far, i think the necro, paladin, and amazon are more likely than not out. im really rooting for the druid to come back! that guy could be hella cool in d3

Apocalypse
30-07-2008, 21:54
Actually you make a good point by bringing the barbarian into the discussion. If these were playable paladins, they would have to look 20 years older to fit into the story



assuming the d2 paladin is the only paladin in history then yes, he would have to be 20 years older

Chard
31-07-2008, 04:00
No classes were accidentally revealed. The content we are shown is pre-planned and on a schedule. This stuff isn't made up on the fly.

Elly
31-07-2008, 20:47
I don't think they are mercenaries because its not really possible to have merc's without a playable character to own them, and from the picture you can see that there is no other classes around to fill in that position:scratchchin:

Also, when comparing the Paladin of D2 to this character, see the resemblance of clothing, Brown tunic, green pants. Not to mention, in the picture in my prior post, the top Paladin looking character is positioned directly in the center of the screen (he was before I cropped), the view of a player.

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2601/pallybv4.png

I believe they are NCP Mercs, like the archers we saw with the Barb in the Forgotten Tombs.

http://www.diii.net/gallery/data/500/merc.jpg

Mizantrop
31-07-2008, 22:53
I think these are just mercs. But this thread made me think about the possiblity of having more than just 1 merc. In that case we could see a class that uses merc-minions. That class could be the paladin or any other class with buffing/debuffing abilities.
Personally I think it would be a great class to play.

Unstoppable
01-08-2008, 02:55
Yeah, the merc or whatever its looks like the D2 starting paladin.
I would agree with the merc option. :thumbsup:

Flux
01-08-2008, 03:11
I don't think they are mercenaries because its not really possible to have merc's without a playable character to own them, and from the picture you can see that there is no other classes around to fill in that position:scratchchin:

Lots of the first batch of screenshots have no player character in them. At least a dozen just show environment, or monsters, and some have NPCs in them too. They're just demonstrating the game and environments and monsters and such, like those WoW movies where the camera flies through dungeons and over the landscape w/o any characters involved. A few examples just from page 1:

http://www.diii.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=648&cat=546
http://www.diii.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=666&cat=546
http://www.diii.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=661&cat=546
http://www.diii.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=662&cat=546
http://www.diii.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=659&cat=546
http://www.diii.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=658&cat=546
http://www.diii.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=657&cat=546
http://www.diii.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=655&cat=546

http://www.diii.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=656&cat=546 -- this one has the npc melee guys and one of the archers too. I think this shoots down any paladin theories, unless you're going to say they've got just one outfit for the paladin to wear, and he never changes it except for his weapon/bow?

Justicia
05-08-2008, 06:47
LOL at fat mage!!!