View Full Version : Is that the Barbarian were going to play?
Maedhros
04-07-2008, 21:46
It seems odd that Blizzard would make the Barb look so old. Im not complaining, im just saying its weird, since a more younger looking character would have a bigger appeal to most gamers. Is it possible that the barb they showed us is not actualy the playable model we use, but simply something like a merc, or a guide, similar to what cain was? If thats true, could Cain die, and the new Barb be the New Cain?
It seems odd that Blizzard would make the Barb look so old. Im not complaining, im just saying its weird, since a more younger looking character would have a bigger appeal to most gamers. Is it possible that the barb they showed us is not actualy the playable model we use, but simply something like a merc, or a guide, similar to what cain was? If thats true, could Cain die, and the new Barb be the New Cain?
That's the playable barbarian. They said they wanted it to feel like it was the 'same' barbarian from D2 in D3, thus, the aging.
lionheart
04-07-2008, 22:34
Whats the problem with the barbarian man? His age is not gonna make you play slower or worst then if he was young anyway. Plus most of the time you will have a helm on so you will not even see his face. And the most important fact is that its great to have the feeling that its the same guy that I had in the previous game, i feel more attached to him. A young guy would be appealing more for people that havent played much the previous game
Im the opposite, I love playing "old" chars that can destroy stuff.
JohnnyDeath
05-07-2008, 00:48
I love the new look of the barb. He looks a lot more powerful, but at the same time, wiser. I really dig it.
Saint Anger
05-07-2008, 01:00
I quite like the current appearance of the Barbarian as well, it indeed makes him seem wiser and more experienced. It is also a nice break from the generic fantasy cliché, where heroes inevitably appear as youthful, handsome, energetic and not in the least bit troubled by their burdensome responsibilities. It's quite refreshing to see how this (male) Barbarian has this "lived through" appearance.
Of course, the female barbarian on the other hand seems to be exactly the opposite of this, as she is basically the embodiment of the cliché: fair-haired (temper!), beautiful, youthful appearance, and with armour that's barely enough to cover her more intimate body parts (makes you wonder how she gets through fights unharmed). (disclaimer: both descriptions are based on how they appear on artwork - the actual in-game representation might be wildly varying)
As far as I'm concerned your point has merit, though I do wonder how much value most people actually attached to the age of the Barbarian in d2. I can only speak for myself, but it appeared to me that he had quite an ageless appearance in d2, meaning he could be any age ranging from his twenties to his fourties. In other words, his age didn't really matter to me.
I don't think it makes much of a difference.
I like the older looks to make it a bit more unique compared to D2, although it doesn't seem to make sense that he HAS to be older looking to represent that 20 years passed. Why not a younger Barbarian generation to represent the class in D3? They did not have any sons? lol, a young, fresh looking Barb (maybe with hair) would be neat, but like I said I don't mind the present one.
I think people won't bother about character age though. Look at Diablo II, the Sorceress looking (and sounding) very young, and the Necro being quite older. Both have a great fanbase and at some point (earlier days, pre-nerfs) the Necro was one of the most popular classes.
Looking at the new Barbarian, I'm reminded of the brutish Nordic Peoples long ago including the vikings. I mean, weren't the Vikings and Goths the most famous of the Barbarians? If I remember correctly (which i don't), these barbarians were a threat even to the Roman Empire.
But this is just what I'm reminded of anyways. :)
"New customization options will provide for an even greater level of character specialization than the previous Diablo games, allowing the player to create unique characters brimming with power." from the FAQ
I guess we could think that some things will be customizable on classes like hair or something...
Still, I do like the barbarian as it is.
I'm not sure if they said it's meant to be the *same* barbarian player character as from D2, but I do recall seeing in some interview where they were discussing that they wanted the player character to actually *be* a character. So you get these interactions where you actually talk to Cain and other NPCs, and there is a personality and all that behind the model. Giving a more unique, aged look can add to this.
That having been said, one thing did stand out to me. It wasn't his age - but rather the huge bulk, and the way he breathed during that interaction with Cain. He seemed *very* similar to Thrall from Warcraft. o_O I can't help but see him more as an albino Orc than a human barbarian =P
I'm not sure if they said it's meant to be the *same* barbarian player character as from D2,
Yes, it actually is meant to be the same Barbarian from D2, 20 years later. You can find information about this on Blizzard's D3 site, and throughout this section of the forums
Okay, sure. I'll go do some reading. Thanks for the confirmation. =)
ExtraStrongFireEnchanted
08-07-2008, 08:42
Barb is like Sean Connery - getting better with age. Always liked how an 'old man' kicks younglings asses.
I like the idea. And I would like to see any other D2 classes with the same look as in D2 but with age. Though if you are able to customize your character, then it should be just the default look and you would be able to choose hair, color skin and body complexion at least.
Just imagine a Witch Doctor that you could customize to look as the former Necro but called "Witch Doctor" LOL.
AxlStrife
09-07-2008, 02:43
Yes, it actually is meant to be the same Barbarian from D2, 20 years later. You can find information about this on Blizzard's D3 site, and throughout this section of the forums
Another hint was when the Barb recognizes Cain and says something to the effect of "You're still alive?"
lionheart
09-07-2008, 08:14
Another hint was when the Barb recognizes Cain and says something to the effect of "You're still alive?"
So true, as soon as i heard that in the gameplay video, im like they have brought him back, its the same guy :grin:
Well, realistically, that could just mean you'd met him earlier in the game. I noticed it at the time and wondered about it, but I don't think it necessarily means you're the same guy from D2. I mean how many other barbarians could Cain have met in 20 years? I'm betting a few.
But if they say it's the same one, then I guess it is.
Whats the problem with the barbarian man? His age is not gonna make you play slower or worst then if he was young anyway. Plus most of the time you will have a helm on so you will not even see his face. And the most important fact is that its great to have the feeling that its the same guy that I had in the previous game, i feel more attached to him. A young guy would be appealing more for people that havent played much the previous game
Doesn't explain why he's level 1 again, with no gear.
lionheart
09-07-2008, 21:34
Doesn't explain why he's level 1 again, with no gear.
Ohhhh so i guess you would have preferred to have a level 90+ guy with all the good stuff that just goes through the game as if he is having a walk in the park...
If you know how these games work then i think you can pretty much understand the explanation to what you said
AxlStrife
09-07-2008, 22:01
Doesn't explain why he's level 1 again, with no gear.
Two decades of hanging up the old axe might do that. We don't know if he stayed at Bastion's Keep and fought off whatever or if he plopped down on the couch, watched some tv and drank beer. Now THAT would be a funny cutscene/easter egg (what all the characters did on their 'downtime')
Geothermal
09-07-2008, 22:09
Always liked how an 'old man' kicks younglings asses.
Kinda like how Anakin Skywalker kills those younglings at the Jedi Temple in Revenge of the Sith? :D ^^ I mean he's not an old man... but he is older :p
On a more serious note, I love the way the barbarian looks, all aspects.
Drooling over the artwork a lot, I have been.
This barb has had a rough life.. he's aged.. though that doesnt make him an old man... he may be 40 yrs..
This barb has had a rough life.. he's aged.. though that doesnt make him an old man... he may be 40 yrs..
In Sanctuary, the average life span of most people is around 40 years. A 40 year old Barb would be an elder of his clan. Cain is positively ancient in age.
ThulRasha
10-07-2008, 14:09
He has had ~45 years of experience in not dying, living as dangerously as possible in between all those monsters.
This venerable dude is one tough bastard!
In my mind it's totally awesome that I can play the barbarian from D2 again in D3. He is old and experienced, besides if you fight your whole life you can be old and still strong.
This is the main character I'll play in D3, no doubt about it.
Sinistril
03-08-2008, 03:53
Why would younger gamers care about the barbarians age?
Anyways you got to admire the grit and heartyness of this barbarian,he hasn't been corrupted by the prime evils even after venturing deep into hell (deeper than the warrior ever did?) and meeting all 3 prime evils+lesser evils... I'll for sure make a barbarian character in D3 just for the RP aspect
Sinistril
03-08-2008, 03:56
In Sanctuary, the average life span of most people is around 40 years. A 40 year old Barb would be an elder of his clan. Cain is positively ancient in age.
Possibly and possibly not, Barbarians always lived a tough hard life giving them stronger bodies/resistances/etc, while other people's ie. a citizen from lower kurast might have shorter lives because of disease etc you'd have to think some of those barbarians resistances made them live a little longer than other races?... I wouldn't be suprised if they had an average longer life span atleast ;p
You also have to take into consideration that whenever theres statistics about life span, birth deaths and child deaths are counted. When deaths happen at ages between 0-5 or so they really bring down the average age. As it was in medieval times for example. So even if the average life span is 40 years, it wouldnt be unusual for people that grew up to become adults to live to become 50-70 years old, depending on their situation and their genes.
They should have made the female model equally grizzled looking. It seems like they want DIII to have the WoW female night elf effect where 99% of the players are running around with female avatars.
Heh, that makes me wonder if there will be /emotes in-game that are more than text boxes above their head.
F-Barb23:/Dance
F-Barb23:Tips
BarbManLoL:Show us your Boobs!
stillman
16-08-2008, 03:31
Looking at the new Barbarian, I'm reminded of the brutish Nordic Peoples long ago including the vikings. I mean, weren't the Vikings and Goths the most famous of the Barbarians? If I remember correctly (which i don't), these barbarians were a threat even to the Roman Empire.
But this is just what I'm reminded of anyways. :)
Barbarians were not just a threat; they actually brought the Roman Empire to a brutal end. Rome had grown to such enormus size that it became impossible to defend its' borders. It got to a point where every male born in Rome was conscripted into the Roman army in a vain attempt to defend Rome from invaders. Barbarian tribes surrounding Rome kept breaking into Rome at various points along the border to pillage and loot Rome's treasures.
But Romans were piggish and they deserved this fate, imo. Half of the population of Rome was composed of slaves. Roman armies had to keep conquering new lands to find fresh slaves and treasure to maintain Rome's lavish lifestyle. It all built up to a huge land mass of lush palaces and loot ripe and ready for the barbarian invasions.
mince pies
17-08-2008, 04:10
No, Blizzard decided to show a completely different Barbarian in the gameplay demo than the one we're going to play as in the final release -.-
(sarcasm)
just imagine how saggy the amazon is going to look.
RagingBull
23-08-2008, 11:11
:scratchchin: no
Schwalker
23-08-2008, 16:16
Looking at the new Barbarian, I'm reminded of the brutish Nordic Peoples long ago including the vikings. I mean, weren't the Vikings and Goths the most famous of the Barbarians? If I remember correctly (which i don't), these barbarians were a threat even to the Roman Empire.
But this is just what I'm reminded of anyways. :)
You are not far off...If you look at the Sanctuary map which basically is a distorted pre-medieval map of Europe and the mediterranean area you find that the barbarian lands corresponds to Scandinavia so there you got your vikings/goths.
viljarast
23-08-2008, 19:13
Looking at the new Barbarian, I'm reminded of the brutish Nordic Peoples long ago including the vikings. I mean, weren't the Vikings and Goths the most famous of the Barbarians? If I remember correctly (which i don't), these barbarians were a threat even to the Roman Empire.
But this is just what I'm reminded of anyways. :)
And not even to the Roman Empire - Vikings and their successors, Normans, actually were a major player in medieval Europe. The last conquerors of England and the British Islands were the Normans. If I remember my facts correctly I think they ruled France around the same time too.
Before them the Vikings had most of northern Europe from Greenland to western Siberia under their power, focusing mainly to Norway and the Baltic Sea. They were kind of landlords and pirates, collecting taxes from many coastal areas rather than traditional conquerors or rulers.
So yeah, the real Barbarians of western history are a good place to start when modelling a worthy Barbarian for D3. :thumbup:
Schwalker
23-08-2008, 22:31
If I remember my facts correctly I think they ruled France around the same time too.
Erm, not really but the northern part of france was given to a Viking lord in exchange for protection from other vikings by the french king, that land was henceforth known as "Normandie".
The Normands (north men) sat there in Normandie a few generations and took a loooong look at Saxon england just across the channel before they simply launched an invasion and took over.
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