Gender Opinions

[KiLLJOi]

What does everyone think about the gender choice of the WD? Do you like the male or female version better?

[lionheart]

The female is more pleasing to the eye lol. They always seem to go for a sexy version of female characters, i wouldve been curious to see a female version in the physical conditions of the male one lol

[CanAbyss]

I haven't been able to see the female WD very good. Does anyone have a picture?

[KiLLJOi]

i wouldve been curious to see a female version in the physical conditions of the male one lol

ROFL, I hear ya
I might go for the female WD just for posture reasons, I don't know how long i'd last waddling around with the male before throwing my keyboard at the wall in frustration:ponder:

If you watch the 15 minute gameplay video on Blizzard's website, they show the female WD right towards the end where the final battle takes place. Her, alongside the male WD and both gender Barbarians are shown

[Fizh]

The male witch doctor looks like he has some serious problems with his back. He looks a bit smaller and weaker.
The female version on the other hand keeps her back more straight, looks better imo.

[AxlStrife]

I admit the male WD looks like he needs his "fix" soon, but that added aura of dementia entices me enough to say I'd choose the male if I'm not in the "OMG BEWBS" mode.

[KiLLJOi]

I wonder if she will have a demonic hissy voice or some seductive sorc type

[AxlStrife]

I wonder if she will have a demonic hissy voice or some seductive sorc type

Something like Calypso from Pirates of the Caribbean; West Indies-style woman. I think that would rock, and would fit the flavor immensely.

[KiLLJOi]

Wow thats perfect, i'd really like that:yes:
Now for the male voice, how about the emperor's voice from 10,000 b.c., or the Persian leader Xerces' voice from 300?

[lionheart]

Yea they have to work something good for the voice. Making too much histerical like the male one would not fit with the look, and making something nice and sexy would not fit with the class, lets see what kind of mix they come up with

[AxlStrife]

Wow thats perfect, i'd really like that:yes:
Now for the male voice, how about the emperor's voice from 10,000 b.c.? Or the Persian leader's voice from 300

Never saw 10,000 BC, but have seen 300, and that style of voice would work awesome. *thinks of Papa Midnight form the comics and smiles*

[Mad Mantis]

The male witch doctor looks like he has some serious problems with his back. He looks a bit smaller and weaker.
The female version on the other hand keeps her back more straight, looks better imo.

I fully agree. Between the back problems and his shaky hands the male WD should apply for disability.

[lionheart]

I think that kinda fits his role a little better than him being strong, good looking and muscular...

[Mad Mantis]

I think that kinda fits his role a little better than him being strong, good looking and muscular...

True, but there has to be an other option than what currently is? He sticks out too much when compared to the female version.

[lionheart]

True, but there has to be an other option than what currently is? He sticks out too much when compared to the female version.


Which for me makes the problem being more the female version than the male one, blizzard doesnt want to make ugly looking female characters as it seems lol

[Chard]

I demand chainmail banana hamocs. Honestly in all seriousness, I want to see a female hero in an RPG that looks like a russian Babushka. That would rock ***, also men that are sexy. WHy the **** not? I'm not asking for some manscaped super model, just something that shows that there is a sexual side to manliness and its not just about being some ripped badass or decrepit mage in a pit somewhere. Hell more range in the stylized appearance of men and women in games is where this needs to go.

[Tupsi]

I like playing female characters but I'd probably choose male doc over female. He looks like he could handle all the voodoo. The female, well, looks like she's just a girl in a beach party. With a funny mask. My opinion may not be that strict but maybe you'll get what I'm trying to say.

[Boss]

ROFL, I hear ya
I might go for the female WD just for posture reasons, I don't know how long i'd last waddling around with the male before throwing my keyboard at the wall in frustration:ponder:


That's funny haha, I'm sure I'll make it my life mission in D3 to hunt down and kill those hobos hobbling around

[lionheart]

I think the game is going to be too fast and with too many monsters swarming you for people to notice his style of walking so much, they will get used to it after 1-2 hrs

[knifebunny]

I have to admit that the male witch doctor and his quivvering as though he was a wielder of great power and magic, is what appeals to me the most about the male counterpart of the class.. if I do pick the witch doctor I will be picking the male for this very purpose.

if I want a sexy woman, im starting up a sorc

[ThulRasha]

I don't mind that the male and female WD are so different.
It's almost as if it is a completely new seperate class, and I for one will play it like that too. At least for the WD, I will have a reason to create one twice.

A male one who specializes more in the death/disease abilities and the female one more of an yet to be revealed side of the WD.

[Luckymofo]

I don't mind that the male and female WD are so different.
It's almost as if it is a completely new seperate class, and I for one will play it like that too. At least for the WD, I will have a reason to create one twice.

A male one who specializes more in the death/disease abilities and the female one more of an yet to be revealed side of the WD.

The female version will definitely be 'revealing' :wink:

[lionheart]

I have one question though, since they have made both genders. Will they increase the number of characters that you can make in Sp, cause before it was only 8. It would suck if they give both genders and then i have no space to make a character of each gender...

[Gorema]

Male version. I think there's something cool in the way he's hunched, looks a bit trollish.

And goddamn do those masks look good on the WD

[raveharu]

lol whats with all those necro-lovers flaming the WD again?

I think the female variation of the WD will be as the nasty as the male, maybe slightly younger.

For the babarian, hmmm, just think of an Amazon variation.

[Ghoulz]

Choose an old man with arthritis in his back? No thank you. He might just drop dead out of the blue during battle. The excitement was too much for his frail heart to bear.

[Chard]

I would play the female IF she was a representation and recognition that women do exist with less than c-cup breasts and that some of them have stoops in the back as well. I want to play a woman in an action RPG who looks like an old and wizened Babuska.

See the above for reference to a game that does show at least one woman as otherwise. In a Miniatures game no less. Currently with what I have seen of her, the answer is a no. The female barbarian gives me some hope however in the concept art, thats shes not just a playboy bunny being covered in furs and given a sword. The same should be true of the WD female model not being a Sports Illustrated swimsuit model with a feather mask.

[AxlStrife]

I would play the female IF she was a representation and recognition that women do exist with less than c-cup breasts and that some of them have stoops in the back as well. I want to play a woman in an action RPG who looks like an old and wizened Babuska.

See the above for reference to a game that does show at least one woman as otherwise. In a Miniatures game no less. Currently with what I have seen of her, the answer is a no. The female barbarian gives me some hope however in the concept art, thats shes not just a playboy bunny being covered in furs and given a sword. The same should be true of the WD female model not being a Sports Illustrated swimsuit model with a feather mask.

I agree, but Blizzard has to consider their target demographic: something along the lines of males age 13-30, and busty women definitely attract the crowd much better than one looking like Mother Teresa (no offense to Mother Teresa for she did wonderful work).

[Chard]

I would play the female IF she was a representation and recognition that women do exist with less than c-cup breasts and that some of them have stoops in the back as well. I want to play a woman in an action RPG who looks like an old and wizened Babuska.

See the above for reference to a game that does show at least one woman as otherwise. In a Miniatures game no less. Currently with what I have seen of her, the answer is a no. The female barbarian gives me some hope however in the concept art, thats shes not just a playboy bunny being covered in furs and given a sword. The same should be true of the WD female model not being a Sports Illustrated swimsuit model with a feather mask.

http://www.privateerpress.com/WARMACHINE/gallery/thumbs/lrg-328-33033_old_witch_scrapjack_box_set.jpg
THis is the image I referenced but somehow didn't appear as a link like I intended.

[Gigashadow]

I agree, but Blizzard has to consider their target demographic: something along the lines of males age 13-30, and busty women definitely attract the crowd much better than one looking like Mother Teresa (no offense to Mother Teresa for she did wonderful work).I am pretty sure busty women is now what made Diablo so popular, and if a company has any decency they can avoid doing it, just like so many others did. And they could always make a busty sorc and a non-busty WD and so on.

I'd be interested in playing this "Witch" stereotype, for once.

[AxlStrife]

I am pretty sure busty women is now what made Diablo so popular, and if a company has any decency they can avoid doing it, just like so many others did. And they could always make a busty sorc and a non-busty WD and so on.

I'd be interested in playing this "Witch" stereotype, for once.

I never implied that it was the scantly-clothed women that made the game popular: that was the gameplay. The looks and lore of the characters help bring people in though. I hear so many people complaining about the "old man" look of the male WD, yet if the looks were reversed people would be in much more of an outrage.

I can't recall a single video game that didn't have a sexy female character in it if there were females in said games, barring Metroid unless you beat it quick. Sex sells and the gaming majority is male (although the female gaming community is quickly catching up), so it's no wonder that at least a few female characters would have some sexiness to them.

[hankhenry]

The female version will definitely be 'revealing' :wink:

ahaha it will

[Gigashadow]

I never implied that it was the scantly-clothed women that made the game popular: that was the gameplay. The looks and lore of the characters help bring people in though.The name brings people in. The gameplay. You may think that sex sells, but it's not really all that many buyers. Hellgate didn't sell so well and it used sex in its advertisements extensively. For me, it was a sign of a game being worthless.

I can't recall a single video game that didn't have a sexy female character in it if there were females in said games,Well, I can't say that Baldur's Gate II, for instance, is extensive in that department. I have a female cleric right now and she looks pretty decent, in any case, you can't say that the game was made for horny teengers. Then again, you have to read in that game, most of the "gaming population" doesn't like to read that much does it.

Sex sellsAnd that's a good thing? Why should a huge company with plenty of money have to cater to the population of horny teenagers who would buy a game just because sex was advertised in it?

You know, the bestselling game out there is Sims. That's what sells. Should everybody follow suit? Make games like that just because they SELL? If that's what Blizzard was making games for it wouldn't be Blizzard anymore.

and the gaming majority is maleAre you saying they are all horny, without girlfriends, and totally need busty women in a VIDEO GAME? There is porn for that. Why should I have to look at exaggerated and incorrect forms of women in games just because some random guy wants them (mildly)? There are tons of kinds of men out there. Including men who don't like being treated with busty women or having that advertised in their face (Hellgate).

I don't mind the state of DII's females, for the most part, but if they go on in that direction blatantly against any form of realism I'm not going to be too happy with Blizzard's target market. I prefer my games realistic (and please don't tell me it's a fantasy game that has nothing to do with women and their huge bouncy breasts).

[AlexanderM]

A bit off topic: Just get don't bring over WoW's "/dance". Nothing like a 13 year old guy playing a female nightelf, dancing like a stripper for free items to ruin the dark mood of a game.

[AxlStrife]

The name brings people in. The gameplay. You may think that sex sells, but it's not really all that many buyers. Hellgate didn't sell so well and it used sex in its advertisements extensively. For me, it was a sign of a game being worthless.
The name will only being people in in the case of sequels. Looks help bring in people in while gameplay keeps them there. The amount of sexual references in a game is not proportionate to the quality of said game, that we agree upon.

Well, I can't say that Baldur's Gate II, for instance, is extensive in that department. I have a female cleric right now and she looks pretty decent, in any case, you can't say that the game was made for horny teengers. Then again, you have to read in that game, most of the "gaming population" doesn't like to read that much does it.I never said horny teenagers, I implied adolescent to young adult males. I doubt much of the gaming community doesn't like to read, then most game genres wouldn't sell nearly as well due to weak plots.

And that's a good thing? Why should a huge company with plenty of money have to cater to the population of horny teenagers who would buy a game just because sex was advertised in it?
I never said it was a good thing, in fact I find it silly. It's not "horny teenagers" they are catering to: it's every human's sexual desire that is piqued by what is considered physically desirable. Since most modern humans will gravitate to someone who has charisma and the easiest way to portray this is to have someone who looks physically desirable.

You know, the bestselling game out there is Sims. That's what sells. Should everybody follow suit? Make games like that just because they SELL? If that's what Blizzard was making games for it wouldn't be Blizzard anymore.
Games of that style cater to God complex more than any other style of game, hence their success. The impulse to take claim and dominate as much as possible is close to as powerful as the impulse to pro-create. Whatever edge a game can get is certainly fair game, if it happens to be physically appealing people then so be it.

Are you saying they are all horny, without girlfriends, and totally need busty women in a VIDEO GAME? There is porn for that. Why should I have to look at exaggerated and incorrect forms of women in games just because some random guy wants them (mildly)? There are tons of kinds of men out there. Including men who don't like being treated with busty women or having that advertised in their face (Hellgate).
Whatever edge a game can get is certainly fair game, if it happens to be physically appealing people then so be it.(I know I used that statement already, but it still holds true.) Sure not everyone likes busty women. Just look at the modeling industry where for the most part the skinnier the better.

I don't mind the state of DII's females, for the most part, but if they go on in that direction blatantly against any form of realism I'm not going to be too happy with Blizzard's target market. I prefer my games realistic (and please don't tell me it's a fantasy game that has nothing to do with women and their huge bouncy breasts).
I'm not gonna argue against that. D2's women were a nice balance, especially the Assassin. The 'zon was a little top-heavy and historically "anatomically incorrect" when it came to bow skills and the inclusion of the right/left breast, but no one seems to mind.

I'm quite sure not every female in the game will exude as much sensuality as the female WD, but in the jungle you're not gonna wear much clothes and a younger person would fare better trekking around the world killing stuff left and right than someone older, depending on skills. Of course, it's more likely that Blizzard wanted to show a contrast in characters instead of just all-young all-beautiful that the previous titles showed, as far as the PCs are concerned.

[Halfsoul]

as a male i am most comfortable playing only male characters. Playing female characters as a male is in my opinion not right, and can almost be linked with transvestitism on a imaginary non-physical level.
For those who say, that like the aesthetics of a female character..well i doubt they would even play the female barbarian..she is just ugly as hell hehe.