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mouseman
18-07-2008, 10:40
There's no shared XP in party, am I right? So this means no leeching, you only get XP when you kill it yourself. However, I have some questions:
1) Does the monster difficulty scale up with the XP as the number of players increases? Or can you just go to harder levels with a party?
2) If you've damaged the monster, do you get part of the XP or does everything go to the one who kills it? What about bosses, and ultimately, killing Diablo?
3) Is it beneficial to go with party?
4) Is there similar XP limits in Diablo 1 than there were in Diablo 2 - your character lvl should be close to the area level ?
5) Any particular areas that give out good XP or ways to fast-lvl in Diablo 1? (just curious about the game mechanics)
6) In what level does the XP start slowing down? Is the maxium level easier to attain than in Diablo 2 now? Or more similar to pre-1.10?
Thanks!
I'm sure you can find the answers to all of these in Jarulf's Guide, but since it's like 100 pages, and I'm not going to go read through it right now, I'll answer as best I remember.
There's no shared XP in party, am I right? So this means no leeching, you only get XP when you kill it yourself. However, I have some questions:
Full exp goes to all chars to damage any monster. It's hard to share except with warriors and maybe rogues, due to friendly fire.
1) Does the monster difficulty scale up with the XP as the number of players increases? Or can you just go to harder levels with a party?
monsters in MP are double the hps of monsters SP. I don't believe there's any scaling by # of players in the game.
2) If you've damaged the monster, do you get part of the XP or does everything go to the one who kills it? What about bosses, and ultimately, killing Diablo?
all chars who do any damage share.
3) Is it beneficial to go with party?
I believe XP in multiplayer chars is capped at 10k per monster. It's far higher in SP, I noticed that I was getting over 130k per blood knight with my lvl 34 Monk, playing this afternoon.
4) Is there similar XP limits in Diablo 1 than there were in Diablo 2 - your character lvl should be close to the area level ?
I think not. it's purely based on the monster and the difficulty level. IIRC.
5) Any particular areas that give out good XP or ways to fast-lvl in Diablo 1? (just curious about the game mechanics)
you get much more exp for monsters in the hell levels, and it overlaps a bit. You'll get more exp for level 16/normal than level 1/NM. Probably have to get up to level 6 or 8 on the next diff level to get to the same exp you'd get in level 13-16. exp differs SP, since it's not capped at 10k, but IIRC players often leveled quite a bit from 30-40ish in the cats (5-8) on hell. Good exp, high monster concentrations in all those little rooms, easy killing with spells in the long hallways, and lots of shrines and book rooms.
Other leveling up at the mid-levels depends on the monsters you want to face. Mages are very fast at anything non-triple immune, so they just do hell. Warriors (and Monks, if you go to HF) prefer melee monsters and hate witches. Rogues love casters and witches and don't mind knights, but they hate squirelly moving targets, like vipers and balrogs.
6) In what level does the XP start slowing down? Is the maxium level easier to attain than in Diablo 2 now? Or more similar to pre-1.10?
exp doesn't diminishing returns with level in D1, you just need a lot more of it per level up, and eventually you get less per monster everywhere but lvl 15 and 16. after the low 40s it gets pretty slow, as i recall, and past like 46 takes real dedication, esp for a warrior. (mages are by far the fastest, and rogues are 2nd since they can use spells nearly as well as a mage, with good gear, and are actually faster on lvl 16, with good tactics.
SP it's much faster to level up since exp gains are not capped. My monk went from 31-35 just doing 13-15, and I only did about half of 15 when I got sick of chasing soul burners with my 49% magic resistance. I don't think I ever got a SP char past the low 40s, back in the day, so I don't know how much/when the exp gain slows for them.
mouseman
19-07-2008, 09:34
Thanks for your answers. Jarulf's guide is actually 162 pages long.. And relying on it always would kill this forum. Anyway, I tried to study it just to found out you remembered everything correctly :) Except that 10 000 XP cap only applies on level 50, the cap lower on every level below it.
I've always played MP even if I was playing solo.. Didn't know about the 2x monster hitpoints, eh.. :) It seems to me that MP is significantly harder, without some of the quest rewards, 2x monster HP and XP caps.
This also sheds light why my warrior leveled a lot slower than my brother's mage and my friend's rogue when we played as a party.. :)
Lanthanide
19-07-2008, 22:47
you get much more exp for monsters in the hell levels, and it overlaps a bit. You'll get more exp for level 16/normal than level 1/NM. Probably have to get up to level 6 or 8 on the next diff level to get to the same exp you'd get in level 13-16. exp differs SP, since it's not capped at 10k, but IIRC players often leveled quite a bit from 30-40ish in the cats (5-8) on hell. Good exp, high monster concentrations in all those little rooms, easy killing with spells in the long hallways, and lots of shrines and book rooms.
As soon as I got to clvl 20 I'd always swap to doing NM/church until about clvl 23-24, at which point I'd go back to Normal/Hell or move to NM/cats, depending on my equipment/spell situation etc. You might get more EXP per monster in Hell, but the church monsters can be cut through like butter with a hot knife, making it much quicker to level there. I always had fun rounding up several of the large room and hallways full of monsters and zapping them all with a couple of CLs.
Zarniwoop
21-07-2008, 19:32
There's so few people playing, you probably won't have to worry about that =)
Just wondering... Does Hellfire support b.net? If so... Are there more people playing hellfire or just Diablo on b.net. I'm playing Just diablo right now and there are only a few people on.
mouseman
22-07-2008, 07:14
Nope, b.net doesn't support Hellfire. Only 1.09 Diablo.
When this forum started, there were like 130 players playing Diablo 1 when I entered the b.net. Now there's like 230 and growing. I think a lot of people are buying the battle chest and giving a try to this one :)
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