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Raith
21-09-2008, 07:35
d1 had:

light saber.
grandfather.
harlequin crest.
arkaines valor.
windforce.
eaglehorn(?)

and a list of goodies that made it to d2.

will d3 have the same items? maybe more buffed?



Update by Flux:

D1 unique items that returned in D2. Links go to the D1 versions of the items. All of the D2 versions have greatly increased stats, but many have some connection to the stats they carried in D1.

Constricting Ring -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Jewelry#Constricting_Ring
Gladiator's Bane -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Armor#Gladiator.27s_Bane
Arkaine's Valor -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Armor#Arkaine.27s_Valor
Naj's Light Plate -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Armor#Naj.27s_Light_Plate
Harlequin's Crest -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Helms#Harlequin_Crest
The Undead Crown -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Helms#The_Undead_Crown
Stormshield -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Shields#Stormshield
Messerschmidt's Reaver -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Axes#Messerschmidt.27s_Reaver
Eaglehorn -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Bows#Eaglehorn
Windforce -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Bows#Windforce
Schaeffer's Hammer -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Blunts#Schaeffer.27s_Hammer
Baranar's Star -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Blunts#Baranar.27s_Star
Wizardspike -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Swords#Wizardspike
The Lightsaber -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Swords#The_Lightsabre
Griswold's Edge -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Swords#Griswold.27s_Edge
Doombringer -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Swords#Doombringer
The Grandfather -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Swords#The_Grandfather
Naj's Puzzler -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Staffs#Naj.27s_Puzzler

Naj's Light Plate and Naj's Puzzler are set items in D2.

The Constricting Ring is not enabled in D2, but exists in the unique ring spreadsheet.

Azurewrath and Shadowfang are swords mentioned in the D1 lore, but they aren't found in the game. They are in D2, and both are considerably less powerful than they should be, given the lore connection.

Akse
22-09-2008, 07:17
Actually list of goodies that made it to LOD. None of those were in the original D2 :)

I hope they figure out something totally new.

Dimmu
22-09-2008, 15:41
There's also Wizardspike, Stormshield, Messerschmidt's Reaver (best d1 axe by far), The Cranium Basher, Veil of Steel and probably more that I can't think of off the top of my head :D

They'll probably include the big ones again like Harlequin's crest, Windforce, and Stormshield. I always wanted to see DemonSpikeCoat return to D2 but they never put it in

Bluechip
22-09-2008, 19:29
The Diggler.

It diggles.

That is all.

Hodl Pu
22-09-2008, 20:07
Archangels staff of Apocalypse, haha

Anyway, how about The Tavern sign from D1?

Or Griswolds edge

Raith
23-09-2008, 20:47
^ griswolds edge is an item, sucky sword. but tavern sign newp. GF / SS /WF / shako are the tops.

Jcakes
24-09-2008, 07:04
I want to see the bovine plate in DIII, I doubt it will though as it was from Hellfire.

FeelsGoodMan
24-09-2008, 17:45
I'd bet on The Stone of Jordan returning.

Is it not the best known item in the game? *remembers back to the huge SoJ duping days, that began one of the only 2 "world events" in D2*

Dimmu
30-09-2008, 08:55
The Diggler.

It diggles.

That is all.

I always figured "The Diggler" Dirk was a spoof on the main character from Boogy Night's stage name: "Dirk Diggler". Maybe I'm wrong though.

Frostraven
01-10-2008, 21:52
I hope to see a lot of items from diablo ii, some from diablo i, and a heap of new items.

Azurewrath is a must, though.

I hope the uber-runewords and high runes burn in hell for all eternity.
Seriously.

DjSlayer
04-10-2008, 13:30
d1 had:

light saber.
grandfather.
harlequin crest.
arkaines valor.
windforce.
eaglehorn(?)

and a list of goodies that made it to d2.

will d3 have the same items? maybe more buffed?

I can't remember Lightsabre from D1, but eagelhorn did exist and it was indestructible as far as i remember, since bows back then had durabilty.

- D.J.

reCoil
06-10-2008, 16:28
Devs said, that they do not want to create "new D2". We'll see new classes so I assume that none of the old "top items" will be implemented to the D3.
I expect to see dozens of the brand new "item packs" :thumbup:

Time will tell ..

deadbeater
07-10-2008, 00:13
The Rune Words might be there, just not as 'Rune Words'.

Alfonso the Great
07-10-2008, 06:09
Scavenger Carapace, yo.

Also, Thinking Cap and The Constricting Ring. Heck, bring back the mods "of the Stars/Heavens/Zodiac." I miss +to all stats.

qOcOp
07-10-2008, 06:56
Cracked sash :coffee:

Raith
09-10-2008, 19:59
I can't remember Lightsabre from D1, but eagelhorn did exist and it was indestructible as far as i remember, since bows back then had durabilty.

- D.J.

i got confused with LS with AW, i meant AW.

In the name of Zod
10-10-2008, 02:01
Charms
The butchers cleaver
King Leorics crown
Fungal tome
Evil Urns

patriach owen
13-10-2008, 23:53
Azurewrath... and make it better than LS this time! (well it is already for some things)

Dont just make it look nice... make it fell nice... This is the slayer of hell hordes afterall, blade of the now archangel Izual.

its gotta be cool :)

MooCQ
18-10-2008, 09:14
Cracked bone helm.. maybe.. Otherwise, No! I don't want to see any items returning, from D2 or 1. NONE! I've found them a thousand times over!

I demand CHANGE! No more [mc]SAME!!

Gigashadow
19-10-2008, 19:27
I prefer as many new items as possible... even with the same bosses (make Leoric drop that humongous sword). Old items are nice but even if they do return them I'd like them on top of new items...

NKlint
21-10-2008, 00:41
I'd bet on The Stone of Jordan returning.

Is it not the best known item in the game? *remembers back to the huge SoJ duping days, that began one of the only 2 "world events" in D2*

If they do I think it would be amusing if they cameo in a quest or appear as a quest item. "Bring the Stone of Jordan back to Cain and he'll Identify your items for free!"

Riceyes
27-10-2008, 00:05
fathom, 08 Shako,08 Valk cause it looks cute, 2 skill/30 str or dex/60 life/90 mana/30 all res/2os circlets. Really hope they keep runewords like enigma,hoto,spirit, etc.

P.S
Whats with all these people using azurewrath? It isnt good.

NKlint
27-10-2008, 03:04
fathom, 08 Shako,08 Valk cause it looks cute, 2 skill/30 str or dex/60 life/90 mana/30 all res/2os circlets. Really hope they keep runewords like enigma,hoto,spirit, etc.

P.S
Whats with all these people using azurewrath? It isnt good.

They can keep the names, but not their functionality. Leave the teleportation to the Wizards, tyvm.

Apocalypse
27-10-2008, 18:34
Charms
The butchers cleaver
King Leorics crown
Fungal tome
Evil Urns


amazed it took so long to see the undead crown on this list. that has to make a return

Kraygor
27-10-2008, 19:21
They can keep the names, but not their functionality. Leave the teleportation to the Wizards, tyvm.

Agreed x10! No more teleporting non-glass cannons with a free pass vs immunes... aka hammerdins.

Put in basic controls for mercs and solid pet AI to ease positioning woes for witch doctors.

ginNtonic
31-10-2008, 07:32
Kings Sword of Haste! (or heavens too I suppose)

RW like enigma wouldn't be a problem if they can get a handle on the hacking. But I also sign for wizard being the only teleporting (assuming they get it again?)

DemolitionColorScheme
09-12-2008, 10:02
I'd bet on The Stone of Jordan returning.

Is it not the best known item in the game? *remembers back to the huge SoJ duping days, that began one of the only 2 "world events" in D2*
I have the feeling it'll be skipped exactly for that reason. I don't mind if it's coming back though even though I wouldn't mind just seeing all new stuff.

DemolitionColorScheme
09-12-2008, 10:05
They can keep the names, but not their functionality. Leave the teleportation to the Wizards, tyvm.
Agreed. I really don't want to see any teleporting characters besides the wizard. I think Enigma totally screwed over the PVP-balance on D2.

Hodl Pu
09-12-2008, 10:11
Odgens Tavern sign

Griswolds edge
Naj's Light Plate
The Butchers Cleaver
The gibdinn
Wall of the Eyeless

Athanasios
10-12-2008, 05:02
Agreed. I really don't want to see any teleporting characters besides the wizard. I think Enigma totally screwed over the PVP-balance on D2.

I agree, with all of you guys. Give the rest of the chars other means of mobility...leap, charge...blah blah blah

In other news, i have a feeling the soj wont be coming back, along with alot of D2 items. Seeing as how Blizz is trying to point D3 into a new direction, i have a feeling that we the players will be seeing alot of knew unique/sets. Not that i think they shouldnt bring anything back, some items mentioned above by you guys would be awesome.

teh_Thrasher
10-12-2008, 06:47
hmm stone of jordan will def make an appearance... preferably as a quest item ;)

the Cranium Basher... best name ever. bring it back. make it more huge and awesome. give it an aura of awesome (like instead of frost or fire... something MORE awesome)
oh and make the %ed fixxed i dont want to find the rarest item and have it be a gimped out 150% :(

DoomBoy
10-12-2008, 07:23
hmm stone of jordan will def make an appearance... preferably as a quest item ;)

the Cranium Basher... best name ever. bring it back. make it more huge and awesome. give it an aura of awesome (like instead of frost or fire... something MORE awesome)
oh and make the %ed fixxed i dont want to find the rarest item and have it be a gimped out 150% :(

it's the rarest? I found it twice. Wish it was Tyrael's Might though

Sass
10-12-2008, 18:04
amazed it took so long to see the undead crown on this list. that has to make a returnUndead Crown is in D2

ICheatAtGolf
11-12-2008, 01:33
I'd like to see the old item names return, along with some new ones.

Edit: These "rare" (unique) items are, in my opinion, part of the story and lore of the Diablo series, so why should they stop existing in the third installment of the game, which follows a time line?

Hmm. Maybe monsters will start leaving them at home from now on, when they come out to get slaughtered.

Teleportftw
16-12-2008, 00:49
I'd like to see the old item names return, along with some new ones.

Edit: These "rare" (unique) items are, in my opinion, part of the story and lore of the Diablo series, so why should they stop existing in the third installment of the game, which follows a time line?

Hmm. Maybe monsters will start leaving them at home from now on, when they come out to get slaughtered.

that was always a funny part to me, you defeat a goat carrying a giant axe or whatever, and he drops a xbow and no axe to be found. like hey, mr. goat, why didn't you shoot me w/ that xbow?

nucnuc
16-12-2008, 02:37
quest items should return as unique weapons

Horadric Malus, Horadric Staff, The Gidbinn, Khalim's Will, Hellforge Hammer

maybe a few items from the d2 NPC's
Nihlathak's Shrunken Head
Cain's Walking Stick
Akara's Cloak
Charsi's Food (haha)

superjayson
25-12-2008, 17:45
If they do I think it would be amusing if they cameo in a quest or appear as a quest item. "Bring the Stone of Jordan back to Cain and he'll Identify your items for free!"

id like to meet jordan one day.

skyjuice
11-01-2009, 21:07
I've always felt that the items in the original game (Diablo) to be much more balance. Yes they are unique, and pretty rare but at least their attributes ain't as over-powered as the current runewords/elite uniqs found in D2. Diablo 1 uniques also had bad side effects to counter those good bonuses.

"Quest items" in D1 appeared back in D2. I'm sure there will be a return of these "quest items" present in D2 to do the same with D3.Examples of quest items that appear in D2 from its predecessor:


Arkaine's Valor, Harlequin Crest, The Undead Crown, Veil of Steel, Griswold's Edge.


There's The Butcher's Cleaver, whether the butcher's pupil is related to it is open up for debate :scratchchin: All the quest jewelry did not make it to D2 (Empyrean Band, Optic Amulet, Ring of Truth)

Then of course, there are the non-quest items (the ones that actually require to 'find' them) that made a return to D2 from D1:


Hellslayer, Messerschmidt's Reaver, Eaglehorn, Windforce, Baranar's Star, Civerb's Cudgel, The Cranium Basher, Schaefer's Hammer, Naj's Puzzler, Storm Spire, Doombringer, The Grandfather, Lightsabre, Wizardspike, The Gladiator's Bane, Naj's Light Plate, Sparkling Mail, Blackoak Shield, Stormshield


Quite a handful really. It makes sense that some of these will make a comeback as they did in the first 2. "Quest" items from D2 will make a comeback in some form or another as well. Of course, there will be new ones to be discovered. Heck maybe those uber runewords may come back! Then, there will be the ones from D1 that did not make the cut due to whatever reasons Blizz had in mind.

Here's a mental wishlist (includes stats from D1):


Demonspike Coat!!
AC 100
+10 Strength
+50% Resist fire
-6 Damage from enemies
Indestructible


Thinking Cap
+30 Mana
+20% Resist all
+2 Spell levels
Altered durability

Royal Circlet
AC 40
+10 All attributes
+40 Mana
+10% Light radius

Lightforge!!!
+8 All attributes
+25% To hit
+150% Damage
+10-20 Fire damage
+40% Light radius
Indestructible

Dreamflange
+30 Magic
+50 Mana
+50% Resist magic
+1 Spell levels
+20% Light radius

Constricting Ring (for real this time huh?)
+75% Resist all
Causes continuous damage
when worn


Would be interesting to know what others would think about returning uniques from D1/D2.

Wintereight
01-02-2009, 03:18
Item's like Stone of Jordan and Sigon's set have developed a sort of personality and I'd like to see them in D3 for nestalga sake. I don't want them to be popular though, i.e if Windforce is back, I don't want it to be the king of Bows again.

I wat
Stone of Jordan
Sigons
Griswold's Edge

I'd also like to meet the characters who have set's named after them in D3 (ie, meet a paladin named Sigon, a sorc named Catherine)

Bladewind
01-02-2009, 09:42
Grisworld.
Tal Rasha.
Immortal King.
Bul Kathos.
Aldurs.
Natalya.
Trang Oul.

All this set items or at least their bearers have significant impact on the diablo history as well.

Same for Arm of King Leoric and Undead Crown. Heck he is alive in D3, his legacy should be there as well. Or hopefully we get the Undead Crown again if we kill him. ;)

Kaysaar
05-02-2009, 03:09
I think that having some returning items adds continuity to the Diablo universe by showing powerful items pass from adventurer to adventurer. As such, I think that the main items that should return are ones that were both in D1 and D2. Beyond that - I can't think of any that my characters wouldn't be able to live without.

raveharu
06-02-2009, 06:38
Will D3 items be similar to D2, as in can they be categorised to normal,rare,set and unique?

I would like the names of the items to be based on their weapon type and level, I wouldn't want to see an "Azurewrath" on a low weapon like crystal sword, doesn't make sense :coffee:

But D2 has been good so far, high level uniques still do have impressive names like "Death's Fathom" and "Reaper's Toll".

tommerbob
12-02-2009, 22:39
I miss all of the "of the stars" "of the moon" "of the zodiac" from D1.

Tyrone
13-02-2009, 19:41
The Rune Words might be there, just not as 'Rune Words'.

Breath of the Dying as a giant ethereal axe would be sweet.

LordC
25-03-2009, 05:30
Item's like Stone of Jordan and Sigon's set have developed a sort of personality and I'd like to see them in D3 for nestalga sake.

I totally agree with this statement. Although it is disgustingly powerful, I've never felt "excited" about using an Enigma. The concept of the thing is too abstract, and whenever I use it, it reminds me of the whippings I used to get from moronic 12-year-olds who got all their items from botting.

Other items are much more interesting to me, and involve me more in the game. Rattlecage, for example. It's supposed to be scary, and it has a big upside (CB) and a big downside (monster flee) that both reflect that. Blackbog Sharp is supposed to be a poisoned knife that is seriously powerful with the right character build, but useless with all others. These tradeoffs for huge power make the items both more evocative and tactically interesting. Items that are merely superior to others (*cough*Chains of Honor*cough) require no such thought.

So basically, I think unique items should be just that, unique. They should have lots of flavor, lots of power, and lots of quirkiness.

Oh, and I hope they bring back Goreshovel as a good item. Really, could there be a sweeter item name?

SkylarK
25-03-2009, 13:25
stuff 'of the zodiac' would be cool for nostalgic reasons

Kingu
25-03-2009, 17:49
The Veil of Steel helmet

mangrove
04-07-2009, 23:20
Grisworld.
Tal Rasha.
Immortal King.
Bul Kathos.
Aldurs.
Natalya.
Trang Oul.

All this set items or at least their bearers have significant impact on the diablo history as well.



I agree! I would love to see some of the d2 sets return with some awesome redone visuals and animations! As previously mentioned, it makes sense! I mean why wouldnt some of the old items return, its not like d3 takes place in an alternate universe or something.

I think it would be pretty sweet to see blizzard's new and improved versions of classic sets like Tal Rasha's or Trang Oul.

commonhumans
05-07-2009, 17:09
Godly plate of the Whale.

...oh dang, he went there.

antonbomb
02-08-2009, 12:52
I think Enigmas going to come back (for better or worse):thumbup:
GO ENIGMA!!!! :crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: :crazyeyes:

Stormshield will probably make it because its still a popular item in Diablo 2
Shako for the same reason as above
TORCHES?
ANNI?

biko
03-08-2009, 11:18
I really want to see The Grandfather in d3. It's definately my favourite item from the Diablo series.

NamssamX
10-09-2009, 08:57
Wirt's 3rd leg

cultrihy
15-09-2009, 04:11
Interesting thought, i completely agree with your perspective

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Flux
23-09-2009, 11:15
D1 unique items that returned in D2. Links go to the D1 versions of the items. All of the D2 versions have greatly increased stats, but many have some connection to the stats they carried in D1.

Constricting Ring -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Jewelry#Constricting_Ring
Gladiator's Bane -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Armor#Gladiator.27s_Bane
Arkaine's Valor -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Armor#Arkaine.27s_Valor
Naj's Light Plate -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Armor#Naj.27s_Light_Plate
Harlequin's Crest -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Helms#Harlequin_Crest
The Undead Crown -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Helms#The_Undead_Crown
Stormshield -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Shields#Stormshield
Messerschmidt's Reaver -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Axes#Messerschmidt.27s_Reaver
Eaglehorn -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Bows#Eaglehorn
Windforce -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Bows#Windforce
Schaeffer's Hammer -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Blunts#Schaeffer.27s_Hammer
Baranar's Star -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Blunts#Baranar.27s_Star
Wizardspike -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Swords#Wizardspike
The Lightsaber -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Swords#The_Lightsabre
Griswold's Edge -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Swords#Griswold.27s_Edge
Doombringer -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Swords#Doombringer
The Grandfather -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Swords#The_Grandfather
Naj's Puzzler -- http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Unique_Staffs#Naj.27s_Puzzler


Naj's Light Plate and Naj's Puzzler are set items in D2.
The Constricting Ring is not enabled in D2, but exists in the unique ring spreadsheet.
Azurewrath and Shadowfang are swords mentioned in the D1 lore, but they aren't found in the game. They are in D2, and both are considerably less powerful than they should be, given the lore connection.


I should probably add this to the first post in the thread, just for the sake of convenience.

Hector
23-09-2009, 13:23
Windforce and Grandfather. :)

raveharu
23-09-2009, 21:24
Azurewrath and Shadowfang are swords mentioned in the D1 lore, but they aren't found in the game. They are in D2, and both are considerably less powerful than they should be, given the lore connection.
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Actually the original Azurewrath was the crappy one, it was made in a crystal sword.

I believe the current Azurewrath is the strongest one handed unique weapon in the game, and the only one that grants an aura. I think Blizzard should've made it "Ethereal" and make it glow in blue.

Daerius
23-09-2009, 22:34
Windforce and Grandfather.

Agreed, also Arkaine's Valor. I remember when I got that in Diablo (1), and it was so helpful in reducing damage.

Hope they are rare though, items like these shouldn't be easy to get.

raveharu
23-09-2009, 22:51
Agreed, also Arkaine's Valor. I remember when I got that in Diablo (1), and it was so helpful in reducing damage.

Hope they are rare though, items like these shouldn't be easy to get.

They aren't easy to find, after playing for 8 years I have yet to find a GF or WF.

od yard
24-09-2009, 03:26
I am praying for Harlequin Crest to go on to Diablo 3.

Sir Mister
01-10-2009, 21:56
Wirt's 3rd leg has to be in. It would be too funny to pass up.

Also, the Grandfather sword HAS to be in as well. An Old Man Barb, using a Grandfather Sword? Priceless!

GuardianHadriel
02-10-2009, 01:42
Am I the only one who has noticed that the undead crown looks exactly like king terenas crown? in wc3 that is.

GuardianHadriel
02-10-2009, 01:45
Wirt's 3rd leg has to be in. It would be too funny to pass up.

Also, the Grandfather sword HAS to be in as well. An Old Man Barb, using a Grandfather Sword? Priceless!

wirts other leg can be looted from a huge abomination called "the butcher" in the blood elf campaign in wc3...but i'm no superb fan of warcraft...just remember stuff from diablo in wc3:whistling: